Dinner & A Dead Gal, Session 299
October 11, 2008, 4:37 PM.
Participants: Joanne, Paul, Caryn, George, Joyce, Steve, Mike, Kat, Nardine (Heathcote Vic, Australia), Mary (California), Marcos (New York City), Catherine (Tennessee), Christoph (Vienna), and Rumi the cat.
We had another great session this past Saturday evening with thirteen people attending from five time zones. Rose opened with brief comments about our fears, once again, and then turned it over to the group for questions.
Mary opened with a story about waking up one day last week being fearful about buying and moving into a new house. She was able to divert her “fearful self’s” attention by concentrating on other, more practical tasks, like what kind of furnishings and décor she would purchase and install, and managed to keep her fearful self at bay throughout the day.
Rose said that the fearful self relies on the ego, what it’s used to doing without thinking [similar to Elias’ automatic responses]. Fear only what you can control, and allow what you can’t control to be handled by essence, which requires trust and allowance. Moreover, we can learn to allow essence to communicate info about the things we can’t control.
Steve asked a question about the week’s crazy slide of the world’s financial markets, and wondered if Rose would indicate whether it will end soon. Rose didn’t give any specifics of that sort, though she mentioned that the bottom will be reached when we each create that.
Trust or lack thereof is the core issue being addressed to in the crisis. When the global banks no longer trust each other to stay solvent, their belief in risk rises, and they stop lending money, which ripples out. There were expressions of “anti-trust” [which I equated with the fear and panic that spread by the end of last week], for example, people don’t trust spirit, self, or people with different associations.
Rose moved into an exploration of the relationship between essence and focus [or what Elias calls subjective and objective awareness] and how they each work to create our realities. This led into an intense and heavy discussion because it brought various issues, fears, and questions to the surface in the group. Rather than say any more, I’ll provide a link to this week’s Podcast since it contains an abridged forty minute version of this discussion that led into our dinner break.
Speaking of which, we had a delicious smorgasbord on Saturday that included different kinds of bagels and baguettes, lox, cream cheese, spinach and spicy quiche, olives, grapes, sliced fresh tomato, feta cheese, eggplant dip, pasta salad, and Ghiradelli chocolate brownies. All of which were washed down by the usual assortments of wines, beers, red iced tea, sodas, and water. We also had hot tea with desert for the first time since May. The half hour break turned into forty-five minutes as people had vibrant conversations here and on the phone. Somehow, it felt good to really dig into some serious challenges that various group members were contending with, as it really seemed to open the door for a lot of stuff!
Marcos kicked off the second half with a story about fealing strange all day and really for the past few weeks, which was partially related to his difficult business dealings during this very difficult period for the worlds’ stock markets. Rose riffed that “the way of spirit” is to surrender to happiness, as the way of spirit affects everything we do. She reinforced the effort that Marcos had allowed in surrendering to the essence self to help him get through the turbulent days, helping him shed his fears so as to spread ripples in a tealling sense into the environment, using himself as a model for handling trauma.
Christoph mentioned that he had been experimenting with autotyping and got some results, but also wasn’t sure if he was just making things up [which reminded me of many people in the early stages who say that autotyping and channeling feals that way at times]. But Rose assured him that he was doing a fine job and encouraged him to continue his experiments and do his best to relax and let go, and allow essence to come through.
Christoph also got two names – Ravan and Ravella – and wondered if either might be his essence name? Rose said that the first name was bird imagery relating to Rose’s connection with all birds (Ravens) in our dimension, and that the second name was indeed his essence name.
[I was stuck by this connection with the Raven, as it is black and part of the Crow family. Both are birds I associate with Sumafi energy, and we have both here in Castaic year round. I often see them when I take my weekly walks up and down the local canyons.]
Christoph also mentioned seeing little white dots when staring at the blue sky, and also there was some merging cloud imagery that Rose said was essence trying to communicate, and to continue to experiment and be open to whatever happens.
Catherine mentioned that she understood Rose’s concepts of “trust and allow” intellectually but had trouble making them work during an episode at work where she was in charge of an event. She began the day in good form, and was relaxed and ready to go, but as she got into the event, things happened that threw off her concentration and she lost that easy going fealing tone that she had stabilized earlier. Rose gave her a long answer on how to allow fear to actually help her through the process, as its main purpose is to help us move or make changes that are beneficial.
I shared a self-hypnosis practice that I found very useful for performing in front of a group of peers, a situation where it is normal to sometimes get nervous or have our feathers ruffled somehow. Essentially, the idea is to help the mind visualize its way through the entire event with grace and deep confidence, so that when curve balls or the unexpected occur, we still deal with them with grace and confidence.
Nardine shared that she had worked through some of her own fears during the past week in rolling out her new RoseVine forum on NewWorldView, recognizing old patterns, old processes that interfere with her intent as a “heart whisperer.” So the process of moving through that was very helpful for her, as well as learning to speak up in the group. She does have important things to say!
We closed out with another round of questions from Steve who invoked interpretations of Elias and tried to get Rose to comment, which she did, on the difference between desires and wants in relation to how essence [subjective] and ego [objective] work in concert to create reality, such as healing, loving relationships, abundance, and fulfillment.
[During the evening Rose mentioned that she created all our realities more than once, and I thought she was baiting or testing us, because that notion seems to contradict many things emphasized by Seth, Elias, Kris, and other in terms of the outer ego and its role in making choices via belief systems, which is central to how we create. But just as Seth, Elias, and Kris have done, she is helping us identify with our essence selves, only taking a different approach. “You create your reality” is true when “you” is defined as including essence. “Essence creates your reality” is true when “essence” is defined as including you. In other words, if we can’t understand that “you” includes essence, then we might understand that essence includes you. Therefore, it doesn’t mean to give up and no longer take responsibility for being able to change our situations, as both George and Steve reflected in their challenges to Rose.
[The danger in doing this is using “Rose said” to blame something outside ourselves for creating something we find difficult, unpleasant, or unhealthy. It’s a BIG topic, and the conversations brought up lots of interesting questions and answers, as always.]
The session ended around 7:30 PM. and we thanked all the folks who joined us on the phone, and mentioned our upcoming Halloweany group session and workshop on Oct. 31/Nov. 1, and that the next Dinner & A Dead Gal would be on Saturday Nov. 22nd.
Our guests stayed until just before 10 PM. when Jo and I turned into pumpkins and went to bed, but there were ongoing discussion and debates as to the mechanics of reality creation and what Rose, Elias, Seth, Kris, or Wilber meant when they said so and so, and on and on we went! All told, it was a fun and stimulating evening.