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Integral Conscious Creation

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Rose-Colored Glasses

Introduction

This original Topic occurred on the Kris Chronicles Forum on the "old" NWV software. When we upgraded in September 2006, all previous Topics were archived, but no longer available because there is still no software tool to easily port from the old platform (Unix) to the new (Windows). However, since this Topic captures an array of important ideas, we are happy to make it publicly available once again.

What follows reflects the real-time nature of our Discussion Forums. As such, there is a raw, spontaneous, yet vital quality to the posts. You can draw your own conclusions, too, but in hindsight it's clearly a time where I finally had took a public stand on what I feel are very important issues within our conscious creation community, however broadly we define that, issues that I feel prevent collective development, evolution, and widening into the next worldview stage, which goes by the name of integral, vision-logic, centaur, autonomous, integrated free-functioning human being, and many others.

Rose-colored glasses became a flash point where several currents became very clear, first, how we all interpret the information offered by Seth, Kris, Elias, Wilber, and others from the "center of gravity" of our own overall development (there are egocentric, ethnocentric, worldcentric, and wider worldviews). Second, that discernment and critical thinking are necessary to adequately put this material to practical use on any social, collective scale (many people, particularly Boomers, are stuck in a narcistic I-Create-My-Own-Reality interpretation, and have yet to fully widen into the We-Co-Create-Our-Joint-Reality interpretation). Third, the performative contradiction (a fancy word for hypocritical arguments that violate their own logic) and category errors (when we confuse different Aspects [Jane], Quadrants [Kris], Frameworks [Seth], Regional Areas [Elias] of consciousness) riddle many New Age interpretations of conscious creation. Fourth, and central to this Topic, that extreme moral relativism exists and in the long run perpetuates the very issues, beliefs, and worldviews it ends up marginalizing, repressing, and denying through its hypocritical use of absolutes to deny all absolutes (e.g., saying, "there is no absolute good or evil" still employs an absolute value judgment of "better and worse").

What follows, then, offers a snapshot in the history of the NWV Forums in which a better understanding emerged of human development and how that applies to the I (create) and We (co-create) interpretations of conscious creation. While Seth often spoke about our "stage of development" in collective terms, he offered precious little in terms of details. While Elias talks about widening awareness, and its complement of narrow awareness, he also offers little in terms of detail (though he did agree that humans beings develop in three general stages: preconventional, conventional, and postconventional in session 1357,May 29, 2003). Kris has outlined some developmental schemes, but has yet to fill in the details to any great depth. In the mean time, we can find these details in the research of scientists like Jean Piaget, Jean Gebser, Lawrence Kohlberg, Carol Gilligan, Jane Loevinger, Clare Graves, Robert Kegan, Abe Maslow, Howard Gardner, Ken Wilber, and many others who've extensively studied various human stage models in individuals (creation) as well as cultures (co-creation). All of which is to point out the glaring weakness of the incomplete views put forth when we take only what Seth, Elias, or Kris have to say "in-a-vacuum," and conveniently ignore all the rest.

Before or after reading what follows, you may wish to read the Kris session that precipitated this Topic. It stemmed from a heated discussion of the London subway bombings that occurred in July, 2005. It's titled, appropriately, Rose-Colored Glasses. Next, you may wish to read my notes on that session titled Dinner and A Dead Guy #23 - August 01, 2005.

Follow this link to read the Rose-Colored Glasses Topic from the NWV forums.

Comments

John Hawkins said:

Hey Paul

You've got a really nice, wide point of view on this stuff and it's a great help to have the easy access you provide...

Nice work...

# January 23, 2007 3:38 PM

Integral Concious Creation said:

“To everything, turn, turn, turn, “There is a season, turn, turn, turn, “And a time to every purpose

# September 3, 2007 3:15 PM
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