Dinner & A Dead Gal, Session 283
August 30, 2008, 4:36 PM.
Participants: Joanne, Paul, Ursula, Caryn, George, Sarah, Tom, Jim, Catherine (Tennessee), Nardine (Heathcote Vic, Australia), Mary (California), Christoph (Vienna), Eduardo (Colorado), and Rumi the cat.
We had another great session this past Saturday as five folks joined us on the teleconference for our fourth Dinner & A Dead Gal. We may just name this session Questions & Answers as Rose, once again, opened the floor for questions after a brief opening. Rather than detail everything I’m going to provide an overview of the main issues the group explored. Also, you can read the transcript when it comes out in several weeks for all the gory details.
[I wanted to begin with some personal observations on how the Rose phenomenon continues to develop for me as I had an interesting experience in which I observed how much personal responsibility I take for every answer given by Rose. Is it accurate? Is it useful? What if she’s leading people astray? Why did she go in THAT direction, and why didn’t she go in THIS direction? Etcetera.
[Over the three hours I observed that Rose provided answers based on the group’s collective energy, but also geared to individuals working through their own issues. So what is deeply meaningful to one person may not be a huge insight for another, yet that, in turn, may be a big help to someone with a similar issue reads the transcript or listens to a Podcast. As that light bulb went off in my head, I began to relax, let go, and “trust and allow” – as Rose teaches, to feal into each interaction and sense how people will get what they need to from Rose’s words. Or not!
[I reminded myself how Vicki Pendley and Mary Ennis, in particular, struggled in the same way during the early years of the Elias phenomenon, taking way too much personal responsibility for every word “Elias said” and learning to “trust and accept” (Elias’ variation) that people would get out of their interactions what they needed.]
Tom, who once again brought a dozen pink roses, opened with a question about the upcoming US presidential election, and Barack Obama got the “Rose seal of approval” in terms of candidates who would effect change in line with the shift in consciousness.
[I was pleased to hear that because I believe that Obama is the best compromise of a candidate who can begin to right the ruinous course of eight years of the Bush/Cheney Administration (who I call “the gang who couldn’t shoot straight”). I hope and pray that we collectively choose to keep Obama and his family safe from the kind of egocentric malevolence that cut the lives of Martin Luther King, and the Kennedy brothers short. As always, time will tell.]
Catherine followed up with questions about three dead squirrels, related “ghost” imagery, and autotyping experiments, which suggested she “talk to Rose” to verify what’s going on. Rose replied that “the ghosts are you,” meaning that those subtle energies we sense about ourselves that seem to originate “outside” of us are actually “inside” of us, and Aspects of us, so there is no reason to fear them. In fact, learning to allow them and work with them will help develop her autotyping abilities.
[I found this to be an interesting development, as Rose encourages all of us to learn what our best way to channel is, because this is a direct connection with essence.]
Christoph asked some questions about his fears of aging, and Rose provide a long answer that we used for this session’s Podcast.
[I also noted the preponderance of fear threads in our group sessions this Spring and Summer. And while some of them have been challenging, all have been authentic, real, and useful ways of learning to work within the limits of fear as an emotion that’s intended to force us into action. According to Rose, that’s its main benefit.
[So it’s not something to deny and repress, but recognize and address to. It seems to be another thematic trend that Rose is using to lead into our Halloweany Group Session and One Day Workshop whose theme is: Face Your Fears, Follow Your Intent.]
Mary asked about manipulating her energy centers, particularly her yellow, and Rose suggested she move the green and pink down to help soothe or settle it when out of balance. Mary also offered her impressions for her essence name and Rose applauded her efforts, but guided her to select an intent name in the mean time.
[Later after Eduardo and Caryn offered some feedback and impressions on their own intentionality, I had another light bulb moment in which I better understood why Rose is downplaying essence names right now and focusing, instead, on intent names. We are blessed to be part of meshwork through NewWorldView that connects us with the teachings of Seth, Elias, and Kris, all of whom regularly provided essence names. I, for example, have received one from both Elias (Caroll) and Kris (Janaki). But I realized that with all the work I’ve done with the intent name practice over the last eleven years I am actually more connected to THAT in terms of my essence than to my essence names.
[It’s not that one is better than the other, they are complementary in my view. The essence name becomes a loving bond between teacher and student that we trace back to Seth, Jane, and Rob. But the intent name is something that we ultimately come up with ourSelves. It is NOT given to us by the authority figure, though they may guide us along the way. When we become our own authority, we become more powerful conscious creators and co-creators with All-That-Is. This is why Rose is “being testy” or seemingly contrary with essence names right now, to help us become our own authorities.
[Moreover, Rose has offered 7-8 essence names thus far. So I don’t believe she will stop using them all together because she sometimes refers to us using essence names. Coinkidinkily, Rose has never given Joanne and I unique essence names. Since her first appearance she has used those already provided by Elias and Kris, along with our regular names.]
A visitor from New York City – Jim – brought his lovely daughter Ella to attend Cal Arts, just down the freeway from us in Valencia. He asked some questions about the Church he grew up in, founded by immigrants from Hungary that used mediums to talk to deceased family and friends. It was a hybrid form of Christianity that exposed him early to mediumship, hence his interest that led him to attend a Rose session while in Castaic, CA.
Jim realized that the format used by his childhood Church was wrapped in the dogmatic, mythic forms of traditional religion, and thus had limits. Rose confirmed his intuition that our generation is widening awareness and ready for a new, more sophisticated version of information that is being presented by the channelers we study through NewWorldView, including Rose.
George gave us the cover to his Thin Lizzy album called Black Rose. So that was more Rose imagery to put on display. During break, we had a delicious dinner of sausage stew, smoked salmon, veggie dip, mixed fruit, European bread, sweet rolls, and cheesecake, all washed down by the usual assortment of beverages and spirits.
George also shared a powerful dream in which a rodent that was wrapped around his lower right leg was released. He woke up feeling as though a heavy burden had been lifted! Rose confirmed that he had “passed a test” in that he was no longer attached to the issue represented by the rodent, and once George stopped lending energy in that direction, he simply let it go, and the energy was released.
In other words, he didn’t need to overanalyze the imagery, instead just go with the fealing tone of letting go totally within his energy. It’s a more fealing-centered process than a thought-centered process, something that Rose continues to reinforce in these group sessions.
The summer sessions have been averaging three hours with a 20-30 minute break. I have been impressed by the stamina, focus, and concentration of the group because it takes that kind of energy to hang with Rose for three hours! Still, last Saturday Rose seemed ready to go another hour, but we had to cut it short because our scheduled time to use the phone bridge was up at 7:25 PM.
We said our goodbyes and thank-yous to everyone in phone land, and how much we appreciated their participation and lending energy to the Rose forum. People stayed until 10 PM. when Jo and I turned into pumpkins. As usual, we had some very interesting conversations based on the session, Rumi got spoiled with attention and snacks, and Jo continued to give short ten minute Rose readings to those interested after the session.
Now that it’s September and we’re moving into conference, workshop, and holiday season, we’ve decided to move to a three week schedule through the New Year. This will help us catch up on our transcribing, which is going great guns, for instance, we just published four new transcripts since Monday, two privates, and two groups.
Finally, we are looking forward to speaking at the Colorado Seth Conference next week in Denver. Our next Dinner & A Dead Gal will be on September 20th, we hope to see you all Zen!