03 September 2008

Simultaneous Time

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The imagination and the dream state can be fantastic tools to help understand the concept of simultaneous time. I’ve been interested in simultaneous time because I believe that getting a grasp on it, and the idea of cause and effect in relation to it, can free me from a great deal of unnecessary restriction. I can’t say that I’ve got the concept down pat, but I’ve certainly learned some things by toying with the notion.


Cause & Effect

The first time I read that cause and effect doesn’t work the way we think it works was in the Seth material. Though interesting, the idea seemed ludicrous. If I were to kick someone in the shins, my guess is that it would hurt. It seemed pretty clear to me that my kick is the cause of the effect which is the pain. In fact, there are limitless examples of how an action causes an effect. And yet I was intrigued. What if it was true that a physical act doesn’t cause a physical effect? How would it work in actuality? What were the mechanics? Thereafter, I began to play with the idea.

I started to look at anomalies first. There have been quite a number of studies conducted on people who don’t follow the usual rules of cause and effect. For example, normally we say that if you run a sword through a person, it will cause pain, bleeding, damage to internal organs, and perhaps death. Yet, scientists have studied a man who had a sword thrust through him on a regular basis (he made his living by giving demonstrations of this feat), and the man suffered nothing as a result of being impaled. When the sword was removed, it was as if it had never been there. All that the doctors could come up with to explain this phenomenon was, “Huh.”

If you stop eating and drinking it, too, is supposed to cause death. And yet, scientists have studied yogis who can go for long periods of time without eating and drinking. In one case, the man reputedly stopped eating and drinking decades ago. Doctors studied him for a few weeks under controlled conditions, and they were baffled when there were no physical effects suffered as a result of the deprivation of food and water. Once again, their explanation for this was the equivalent of, “Huh.”

There is a ton of information out there on events that don’t follow the rules of cause and effect. For instance, learning is supposed to cause knowledge. Yet there are people who know things spontaneously. Medicine is supposed to cure illness. Yet there are people who take medicine and die and people who take nothing and get well. Old age is supposed to cause any number of physical effects, everything from gray hair to reduced eyesight. Yet, there are individuals that buck each and every one of these supposed effects. When you start to study the exceptions, you find them everywhere.

These and many other inexplicables lend credence to the idea that maybe cause and effect doesn’t work in the way we’ve been taught it works. As I explored the exceptions, I began to ask myself how events actually work. Eventually, I found that the best way to study the true workings of cause and effect was to study the imagination and the dream state. What I found seems obvious now, but it took a dream for me to get it.


Cause & Effect in A Dream

One night, I saw my coat in a dream. It was a perfect replica of my actual coat. The detail, the weight, the tiny threads were as real as my everyday coat. When I woke up, I thought, “Hey, where did that dream coat come from?” In waking life, my Mom bought me the coat. We went to a store and she paid cash for it. In waking life, my assumption was that the coat was manufactured from materials in nature--in this case wool--and then brought to the store where we purchased it.

Yet, in my dream, the coat didn’t come from a store. There were no dream sheep that were sheared for the wool. No dream manufacturing plant put the materials together. Dream trucks did not distribute it to a dream store where I went and purchased the thing with dream money. None of that. Instead, my coat was formed from no apparent “cause.”

That was the first time that this idea of no cause and effect seemed plausible. I thought, oh, so innocently, “What if it’s the same in waking life?” Using this example, what if the entire manufacturing process consists of a series of choices that really have nothing to do with cause in the traditional sense? That is, you could experience watching people sheer sheep because you hold that idea. You could watch the wool being turned into thread because you hold that idea. You could watch the thread being turned into material, and the material being sewn into a coat because you hold that idea. You could watch trucks being loaded and sit with the driver as he delivered the coats to a department store because you hold that idea. You could experience all of that, but that none of it really had much to do with the actual origin of the coat. That is, despite that imagery or experience, the coat’s origin wasn’t necessarily those actions. What if the real origin of the coat is the same origin of my dream coat? What if the origin was something as simple as an idea?

If this is confusing, then let me go back. Think of an object in your mind. Say it’s a book. Where did the book come from? The imagination bookstore? No. You wanted to think of an object, and that object appeared to your mind’s eye. But how was your mind able to make that form appear? First of all, you have to admit that the form is real because you can perceive it in your mind. It’s not nothing. It’s got form and color. But where did the form come from? How about the images on the cover? The words written on the interior pages? What is the origin of this thing that you’ve created in your mind?

Some people might argue that the image of the book is a memory, data stored in your brain, and that you’ve conjured it from what you’ve seen throughout your life. But that line of logic doesn’t work. Saying the image is a memory doesn’t address how you’re able to make that image appear. In other words, even if it was a memory, how’d you get the memory to appear to your mind’s eye? What’s the real origin of the mental image? Second, if I ask you to change the image on the cover of the book or the colors therein or make the book as big as a house, you can’t argue that you’ve ever seen such a thing in waking life. And yet you are able to make such an image appear in your mind with varying degrees of vividity according to your particular abilities.

So again I ask, “What’s the origin, what’s the cause, of that image of the book?” It’s not an imagination tree that’s been turned into imagination paper and printed with imagination ink. I’m going to be bold here and say that the origin of that image in your imagination is the same as the origin of my coat in my dream and the origin of my actual coat in waking life. The origin is the idea. The idea is the actual thing because ideas are form and motion. Depending on the context, the idea will appear in different guises (i.e. there will be differences between the imaginative image and the dream image and the waking image).

You could say that there’s no external cause to the appearance of anything. There’s the idea of a thing, and that’s the experience of a thing. The cause and effect are one and the same: the idea. What varies is the context within which the idea is perceived.

This is why it’s not necessarily true that a lack of food and drink will cause death. That’s one idea. It’s not necessarily true that having a sword stuck through you will cause you to bleed. That’s one idea. It’s not necessarily true that learning causes you to know something. That’s one idea. It’s not necessarily true that medicine will cure you. That’s one idea. It’s not necessarily true that age affects your body. That’s one idea. And on and on you go.

If you start to pay attention to your own personal experience, you’ll see all kinds of situation where the supposed cause doesn’t have the effect that we’re taught that it’s supposed to have because those people don’t hold those ideas. I’ve known people who could swill massive amounts of alcohol and not get a hangover (a trick I haven’t learned). In another case, we had a family friend who died recently. She weighed well over 300 lbs. her whole life. She was not what you’d call a health nut. And yet she lived a long, healthy life, even though all the “research” says that she should have been dead or ill decades ago. I’ve known people who hardly put out an effort, and fortune seems to shine on them continually. Whereas other people I’ve known have worked themselves to the bone and remained in a state of poverty, even when they’ve had an education, connections, and determination. It seems illogical to make generalizations about cause and effect when there are so many variations. It’s fair to say that there is another order to events, and I think it’s this:

The cause is the effect. In simple terms, the real cause of any effect is the mix of your ideas.


Simultaneous Time


I think examining the idea of cause and effect is necessary to understand simultaneous time. I had to get a handle on it before I could even approach the idea that all time is simultaneous because you can’t have the normal view of cause and effect and say that all events are occurring at once because it presupposes a before and after.

If all events are happening at once, then cause and effect must be something else entirely.

Seth used the example of crime and punishment to illustrate the idea. He stated that in simultaneous time you can’t say that committing a crime is the cause of the subsequent punishment because both events exist right now. This only makes sense if events themselves are ideas.

The reason I’m so fascinated by the idea of simultaneous time is that it’s exciting to think that the events that I want to experience already exist. It’s exciting to think that I’m not here slugging out a life in an attempt to survive or, worse, to earn some sort of prize. Instead, I like the idea that it’s a gifting set-up we have here, where your ideas are the key. It’s both a practical and magical at the same time.

In this, I’m beginning to realize that ideas are not ephemeral. Not at all. They’re visceral. They’re substantive. They’re alive, active, responsive, and in motion. More importantly, they’re self-actualizing. And there’s plenty of proof if you take the time to look for it. In other words, cause and effect can’t be a law because there are too many exceptions. The exceptions are clues to a different order. My experience says, over and over, that this order hinges on your ideas.

Lately, this has become obnoxiously apparent. The words and phrases and stories I hear people use matches their experiences to a tee. It’s amazing really. I keep thinking that the relationship between a person’s experience and their ideas is so obvious that I wonder that I never noticed it before. This begs the question: How good can I, or anyone, get at piecing together ideas that make for balls-out living? Because, frankly, if everything is happening in the now moment, there’s a lot of great stuff to choose from. It all hinges on your personal philosophy of life, the ideas that you bring together and tell yourself are true.

When you see that developing a personal philosophy is more than some academic exercise, that it actually forms the substance of your experience, the possibilities expand exponentially. Your ideas become bait in an infinite ocean of potential experiences. Time then becomes a mechanism for choice, and what a perfect thing that is.


As a parting note: The little "Normal 0" above showed up on its own as I was posting this blog, making it official that there's nothing about me that's normal and that cause and effect doesn't function the way we think it does.

Comments

# Eldon said:

Well said Samantha, just last night a friend and I were dicussing the same idea, ha ha,  That things don't have to always come in the front door, from the past, they can come in the back door from the future, or a side window, and they all come from dreams.

Thanks-a-bunch from your dreams,

Eldon-marz-mark

05 September 08 at 8:16 AM
# Samantha said:

Hi Eldon!

I love the side window analogy. It reminds me of this Kris exercise where Kris challenged people to mess with their verb tenses for a while to loosen up their perceptions. For instance, you might say, "I'm going to win the lottery last week." My family and I turned it into a game that we played for a little while, and it was actually kind of hard to do. I didn't realize how married I was to one, linear way of speaking and thinking.

In any case, it was a great experiment on the nature of focus. At the end of the day, you're always focused on an idea or tone, no matter how you structure it. You can call the idea a memory or a plan for the future or whatnot, but it's still this tone that you're tuning into. So, it's not so much the place that you put the tone (the past, present, or future), but the tone itself that's creative.

In other words, I think as people play a little more with their own perceptions, the side window will be wide open. I have a hunch that it's going to lead to massive creativity.

Love,

Samantha

06 September 08 at 3:20 PM
# John Hawkins said:

Hi Sam

Another charming post... Very nice progression through normal experience to these liberating ideas about how life works... and how we can work life!

A note about why things SEEM to mostly follow the idea of cause and effect for most of us most of the time - It's because the ideas we engage actually become our experience of reality... not a distortion but the actual real deal... so if you believe in cause and effect, it IS a reality for you... just limiting compared to the more expansive ideas you so engagingly lead us to...

Thanks again for a great read...

13 September 08 at 10:00 AM
# Samantha said:

Hey John!

Isn't it endlessly fascinating to think that your ideas create? The thing that gets me is how gutsy you have to be to try out these types of ideas because you have to go beyond what you've already perceived. I'm thinking that it's pretty crucial to get to know and become good friends with the invisible, with "nothing," with an area of life that's beyond physical perceptions. In one sense, you can't prove that it exists, and on the other hand it's obvious it exists; there's proof everywhere.

I'm trying to make the "nothing" more familiar so that I can step aside the idea of sequencing long enough to allow other ideas to take hold. Not that I don't like sequencing (or cause and effect). It's a pretty handy thing. In fact, I'm pretty fond of it! But it is fun to take a vacation from it once and a while and imagine what it means to have life function without it, at least in the form that we know it now.

I have no conclusions on that front yet . . .

Love,

Samantha

15 September 08 at 1:26 PM
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About Samantha

Samantha Standish is a writer and a former intellectual property and corporate law lawyer. She received her B.A. in history with honors, and her B.A. in Spanish with honors, in 1989 from the University of California, Santa Barbara and went on to get her law degree Cum Laude from the University of Maine School of Law. In her legal career, Samantha worked in government and the private sector, most notably in the financial planning and software industry. In her personal life, she’s been married for twenty years and has a fifteen year-old home schooled son. Samantha resigned from the bar in 2005 and has devoted herself to bridge writing (making complex ideas about space/time easy to understand for the average reader) ever since, focusing mostly on self-help articles for artists and writing bridge books on the side. In her words, “The first forty years of my life were fact finding; the next forty years are about applying, expanding and exploring what I’ve learned.” Her books can be found at samanthastandish.com. Samantha’s NWV blog is titled The Magical Life.