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Index:
- Writer - Colleen Joy Page
- Featured Artist – Stephen Bennet
- The Seth Material Quotes - Various
- Notes from the Interior
- From the Archives:
Dream Induction
Violence
- Ashley - Dreams, Why, What and How?
- Dreaming Lotto Numbers
- Dreaming with Roger Caillois (Dreams and Story)
I'm a:
Seeking a:
Age:
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City or ZIP:
I dreamt of a dream, a dream that lasted a lifetime. I dreamt of a dream, a dream I died for - to be mine. It began with pain and ended the same … and all the while I forgot that I was sleeping… I dreamt this dream and felt it in my veins, Bleeding into a heart so real that I forgot I was sleeping…. I was child, I was crone, I was wise, I was ignorant. I was human while my God self slept…
The Dreamer by Colleen-Joy Page
"I call my paintings super portraits because by the time they are finished they have a life of their own, an inner movement. As the subject and I collaborate, a creative energy flow is created. It builds as the subject relates to her portrait and is completed when a viewer observes the finished painting. The movement embedded in the very brush strokes of the portrait, persists – empowering the subject and touching the observer."
Painting - ‘Dreaming’
http://tinyurl.com/2uho6
Painting - ‘Rob Butts’
http://tinyurl.com/2jogz
"...Some knowledge involves concepts beyond [language]. Both of you will have a series of highly vivid and memorable dream experiences, seven in number and you will remember them. In these you will be given information that cannot be given verbally. It will come through direct experience. Each dream will mark a point of advance.
"There will be no doubt in your mind after each that....they represent a necessary stage through which you must pass. They will consist of various illuminations. They will not be close together.
"They will be evenly timed. At the end of your seventh dream you will be acquainted with your immediate environment after death. You will indeed have a glimpse of that next environment.
"The seven dreams were incipient once your own psychic education began. They will also represent culminating experiences, in that you have been progressing in other levels of reality in the dream state for some time.
"Consciously you have been unaware of this. Each dream however will serve as a break through into your conscious awareness, a graduation drama of a sort of which you will be fully aware.
"When you are considering the sort of questions of Which you spoke earlier...remember not to push too hard for answers on an intellectual basis.
"The intellect does not know the answers
"The intuitions can deliver within moment’s knowledge that the intellect struggles with for years
"Part of this involves making your self available intuitively so that the answers may come. The way you phrase questions to some extent colors the answers. Seeking the questions behind the questions will often give you the initial answer that you wanted...."
The Early Sessions, Vol. 9, session 492
Notes from the Interior - The Seven Dreams
My understandings of the latter sessions 492-509 which also mark the completion of Das material in TES enable me to return to my questions. The main thrust is not why, how, when or even if, it is `what'
I wonder if the `what' of a thing and its value fulfillment occupies the same space.
http://www.angelfire.com/ct2/spotkania/Dali.html
described as '...A four-dimensional hypercube has 8 hyper surfaces that are three-dimensional cubes. The cross in Dali's painting represents these 8 cubes "laid out flat" in three dimensional space, in the Same way that an ordinary cubic box can be undone and its surface (which consists of 6 squares) can be laid out flat in a plane...
The other matter is that of the seven dreams, as an endeavor I have noted it but not induced them. I suspect these events would be remarkable in their intensity. My preference is for the direct 7 experiences, taking lucidity directly into the dream plane. All the same the seven dreams could rank along side a type of super True Dream from the Gates of Horn.
Subject: Dream Induction
I wonder what sort of questions are commonly asked or proposed when trying to induce a dream? In the past, I've trying asking for clarification about a relationship probably most often. I seldom ask for help with a problem in a dream. Those answers tend to come to me more often in the waking state, even if I do ask.
I've been vague and I've been specific. Oddly enough, I seem to get more answers when I'm vague, than when I'm specific.
My feeling from the Seth material is that we tend to be more playful and creative in the dream state - yet my own dreams seem way more serious than playful.
:-) I'm asking questions because I want to do something specific with my dreams, to jumpstart the activity in them, but I'm not sure just yet what that will be. I think it would be helpful to determine what I want to get out of it first, before I decide what to do.
Does anyone purposefully play with his or her dreams, in the induction of a dream, or do you mostly react to the dream afterwards? Do you choose a theme for the dream - say the past or the future and specific people or events to work with? I'm getting an idea - to ask for a dream of a particular time frame and involving particular people in relation to a specific event or concern - and then interpret the dream only in that context…Gina
"..How real are dream events? What do dreams mean? How do they affect daily life? ..Such issues…while obviously of concern, do not touch upon the greater events behind dream activity or begin to touch upon the mysterious psychological actions that are behind the perception of any event…and the characteristics of energy without which no action is possible…"
The Nature of the Psyche, page 142-3
"Consciousness [Self]….. travels into the future into the past into other bodies changes an object into a person, a person into an object, transports them instantly to a faraway place and on and on. As does everyone’s consciousness. For that matter it is not only at night this happens. It goes on all the time. The consciousness that we think of as us is such that it can focus in material reality a, where it takes on identity as a three-dimensional being, while at the same time maintaining endless other identities and existences elsewhere, both in and out of matter. In our dreams we get in touch with this multidimensional aspect of ourselves.
"Because of our still engrained materialistic beliefs many of us have yet to be aware of so called strasensory phenomena while in full waking consciousness (though they happen all the time) Such occurrences as foretelling events or finding lost articles through ‘seeing’ where they are make news precisely because they are unusual. People who report experiences of this kind t o those who have no had them may be regarded as masterminds or charlatans.
"Yet even the most logical of empiricists, the type of people who have never once experienced a waking phenomenon for which they could provide a rational explanation will easily and openly admit that they dream…according to Seth the world of dreams is just as real as the world of space and time. In fact it is more real in that contains more dimensions. In dreams we are more aware than when we are awake of the basic multidimensionality of consciousness, of our multidimensionality as consciousness…Never does it occur to us that our reality is based on dream reality, not the other way round, that rather than form dream events out of waking events we form the events of our waking life through the mediation of our dreams
[To be continued]
Nancy Ashley, A Seth Workbook, Create Your Own Dreams, page ix,x.
Whether or not you remember your dreams, you are Educating yourself as they happen.
The "Unknown" Reality, session 721
How to Dream about Lottery Numbers
Do you want to learn the secret of dreaming winning lottery numbers? Why? Why are you so stupid as to expect your dreams to contain meaningful insights and predictions about the future? What kind of a universe do you think we live in, one in which stupid people with below average talents who didn't pay attention at school can make it all come right later in life by having a dream in which winning lottery numbers just pop into their heads because that would be handy?
Dream on.
There is no place that the next weeks winning lottery numbers are known or stored, therefore the knowledge of what they are cannot be accessed by any method, including the entrails of goats, tea leaves of gypsies or dreams of people who do a quick Internet search and hope to find the secret of happiness.
Dreaming Your Way To Wealth
Dateline: Monday, June 14, 2004
By: RANDALL FITZGERALD
Phenomena Senior Editor
Over a 33-day period beginning in September 1998, Janine Cox amazed and enthralled her co-workers at a Fort Lauderdale, Florida law firm by winning the Cash 3, Play 4, and Fantasy 5 games nearly every day in the Florida state lottery. What dumbfounded Janine’s co-workers even more than her uncanny success was how she managed this feat – each night she dreamt the next day’s winning numbers.
I have interviewed Janine and her co-workers numerous times and you, the readers of Phenomena, are the first to receive a sneak preview of what I found out about her extraordinary ‘gift.’
Her win streak started in the aftermath of a dream she had about her deceased father. “In the dream, he was standing there talking to me and the room was dark. He said he was trying to help me but had been having difficulty getting through. He said, ‘Play the 7912 and you’ll win!’”
She woke up and wrote down the number; played it that afternoon, and that night won $5,000 in the Play 4 state lottery drawing. When her father had been alive, Janine always used to give him her lucky numbers each day and he would often win. In the dream, he seemed to be returning the favor.
After this experience Janine continued playing and winning sizeable amounts of money in the lottery using the numbers she visualized in her dreams. One of her co-workers, legal secretary Susan Miller, admitted to me in an interview that initially everyone in the law office laughed at Janine, the young and beautiful paralegal, refusing to believe her claims. “But as Janine began winning, everyone’s attitude changed and they got real serious about her numbers. For an entire month she won consistently and everyone, even the attorneys, were betting on her picks.”
Another paralegal, Ron Warner, also felt skeptical about Janine’s claims until he began to see the results firsthand. “Janine would come up to me at noon and say, ‘I had another dream. Let’s go play my numbers.’ So I made about a dozen trips with her to watch her place bets.”
Warner quickly became a confirmed believer. “It was amazing to watch her. Every time we went she had winning tickets to redeem. She was betting a few bucks, and getting hundreds, sometimes thousands of dollars back.”
As I did, you probably are asking yourself the obvious question: why doesn’t she hit six numbers correctly and win millions of dollars all at once? There is an answer, one that makes sense to me, and it involves a peculiar aspect of the human mind….
1 Ticket Wins $290M Mega Millions Lottery
Sat Jul 3,11:59 PM ET
From:
Subject: lottery dream
Dreamt I won the lottery, lots of fun. I won 1.1 million dollars. the dream was extremely vivid as I took my ticket in to get it verified and then was shown into the press room to be photographed with the winning ticket and interviewed. It went on for awhile and I remember how excited I was, the feelings and emotions of other winners in the same room, the cameras and lights, how I felt making my little speech. So now I'm off to go buy tickets. Kaarina
From the Archives: Pimps, prostitutes and Pain
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When we dropped the prostitutes off we ended up in the garage of the lackey with a couple of enforcers and the gangster, who had an AK-47. The gangster/pimp was furious and levelled the gun at Matt and I. I knew I had the glock too but thought if I used it I would only end up getting others hurt. He wasn't aiming but just pointing it in our direction. He either said or I emotionally understood that he thought he was "teaching us a lesson".
The pimp shot the gun once. It hit me high up on the right leg near my waist. It hurt like hell (and, yes, to some extent you can definitely feel pain in dreams!). I refused to let the pimp know that though and stared back at him defiantly and didn't flinch. As he walked into the house I said something defiant and with a double meaning to him but can't remember what.
We lifted the garage door and walked out. The cops were there staking the place out. They guys wanted me to report my gunshot wound to the cops. I thought about it but wanted revenge too.
I remember telling Matt that despite appearances, I wasn't all right and and I was bleeding badly and would need help soon. I awoke.
Weird things is, in the dream I really was in a lot of pain and light-headed as well. I get the impression - obviously - that this dream was about the nature of violence. Other than that, no idea…James
Guys have such graphically violent dreams! Which is difficult for me to comprehend so I'm going to have to think on this one for awhile. Lots and lots of symbology here too.
It's funny you should mention that guys have such violent dreams. I've been reading a great deal about aggression, male aggression in particular, in both Seth and my newly discovered Elias web pages. I've been meditating a lot on this and ways to extract myself from the sometimes ridiculous and caricatured response cycles men can fall into.
Interestingly, merely knowing that is not the same as understanding it. I don't mind saying that I've run with a pretty rough crowd (by most folk's standards) for some years now. It's hard to extract oneself from the mentality, the knee-jerk response one has to such things. I've taken steps towards it in the past few months and the epiphanies are coming fast and furious nowadays.
In a (sort of) related note, I've taken a slightly different interpretive approach to my dreams these last couple of weeks. Up till now, I've tried to figure out what my dreams meant in much the same way that I would analyze, say, a Yeat's poem; I'd presuppose a personal mythology that was relatively consistent and symbolically significant - and then try to deconstruct the puzzle. Where I had a strong emotional response in a dream, I'd focus and try to attach an extra significance and faceted quality. There you go, simple as that.
Lately, however, I'm beginning to realize (or just go crazy - one of the two) that there's an emotional reality and narrative in dreams that has nothing to do with the, er, objective events of the dream. I feel like even the simplest dreams have at least two major layers. The deeper symbolic meaning of the objective content of the dream and the emotional response/reality to those events in the dream, which in my case, can give me messages that are contrary to, or wholly outside of the symbolism in the dream.
Anyway, if this is true, then I understand why Seth has commented that YOU, the dreamer, are the only true arbiter of your dreams. Because emotions, in their infinite combination and subtlety, cannot be conveyed in words - only felt subjectively. And those emotions have an interpretive reality as important as the objective dream symbolism.
This is not to say, though, that others can't offer you valuable advice about your dreams, but that their value lies primarily in interpretation of dream symbolism and alternative perspectives. In a sense, these are both really important aspects, since others have frequently given me a joggle in my own interpretation that leads to a break-through.
Again, I think you're right. The crux, and I find there usually's one in every dream, is right here. Maybe, I associate innocence with weakness? I don't think I do on the surface. I've always felt a little more connected to childhood innocence in my adult life than most seem to be. If I could figure this one out it might make a big difference.
You comment further down the dream:
"Recognition of the futility of violence"
I really want to recognize the futility of violence. I mean, it's something I understand intellectually. I think I even comprehend its uselessness in 99.9% percent of the instances in which it is employed, but being completely honest, there's some real pondscum out there, and I've run into them. And I can't walk away from the idea that others are being hurt even if I can use my spiritual philosophy to cover my own ass. For me that doesn't make it okay.
And when I say pondscum, I don't think most people have had many real one-on-one's with sociopaths. People for which no other language but that of violence and domination has meaning. I'm glad most people have had little contact with them, too, because when these people touch your lives, they erode your trust in others at levels beneath consciousness.
To counter I'm sure, others would mention YCYOR. And I know (intellectually again) that everything I'm saying is part and parcel tied in with belief systems. That if I simply wouldn't seek out these occurences, they wouldn't happen. That we get what we focus upon. To some degree I have actually walked away from the frequency with which I used to brush up against life's rougher nature.
Bearing that in mind, though, these experiences have still happened. And I still must deal with them. And I also keep in mind that my experiences with the casual violence of the world have been relatively light. Others have had it much worse. I can't imagine how that must reinforce one's belief systems.
Well, I guess this comes back to an old argument for me. YCYOR has demonstrated much of its validity to my satisfaction, but it hasn't demonstrated its COMPLETE AND UTTER validity to my absolute satisfaction yet. By this I don't mean to imply that I don't believe it will. Just that I probably have some roads I'll have to walk down before it does. Without doubt I'm in this for the long haul.
You round things out with:
"To me, this seems to say that although it appears you understand the issue about violence, that you really don't and are asking for more insights."
Strangely, with regards to this thread, I've recently been offered a job bouncing at one of the rougher venues here in town. Paradoxically, my impulse is to accept this offer. Maybe, there's something in a bouncing job that could teach me about understanding the futile nature of violence?
If your ultimate desire is to end violence - then I think you really have to understand it to the nth, not just a surface or superficial type of knowledge, or intellectual understanding as you say. You have to understand and experience the emotion and non-emotion that fuels it. Kind of like if you are a firefighter, you really need to understand the nature of fire in all its elements to be a truly effective firefighter. Perhaps your true nature is peacemaking, but without understanding the full element of violence, how will you be effective? ......just one idea....
Another thought on violence has to do with aggression and creativity yet another path Seth has led us down and I won't go into here. But that might be another aspect of it for you to explore.
Even tho I felt out of my element in this dream, I find that trying to understand it stretches me and it's good to be stretched periodically!
Strange But True
Gadget May Help Sleepers Choose Dreams
Tue Jun 29, 8:53 AM ET
Ever wished you could decide what to dream at night?
A Japanese toymaker says it has a new gadget that can help you do just that. Tokyo-based Takara Co. says its "Dream Workshop" stand — shaped like an oversized cellular phone dock and about 14 inches tall — can be programmed to help sleepers choose what to dream.
While preparing for bed, the user mounts a photograph on the device of who should appear in the dream, selects music appropriate to the mood — fantasy, comedy, romantic story, nostalgia — and records key word prompts, such as the name of a romantic crush.
Placed near the bedside, the dream-maker emits a special white light, relaxing music and a fragrance to help the person nod off.
Several hours later, it plays back the recorded word prompts, timed to coincide with the part of the sleep cycle when dreams most often occur. It then helps coax the sleeper gently out of sleep with more light and music so that the dreams are not forgotten.
The device, which will sell for $136 in Japan starting late August, targets sleep-deprived businessmen, a company official said.
"There are many businessmen today who they say don't sleep because they are too busy. This gadget can be used to help them dream a good dream," said Takara spokeswoman Mayuko Hasumi.
In a study conducted on a group of men and women between the ages of 20-40, the device had a success rate of 22 percent in inducing dreams in which one of the prompt words appeared, said the Yomiuri Shimbun, a major daily.
Dreaming with Roger Caillois
By Robert Moss
-I dreamed of conversing with Roger Caillois in French before I started reading him, and sought out his published works to honor my dream. I found that he was a wonderfully gifted French dream explorer and literary adventurer, a friend of the Surrealists, a student of games and myths and a traveler in the realms of stones and minerals. He edited a remarkable anthology titled The Dream Adventure, which I have been rereading partly because it sows many fertile ideas about the relationship between dreams and story.
-The anthology has three parts. The first is a lively introduction by Caillois distinguishing two fundamental approaches to dreams – that of those who wish to interpret dreams, and that of those who wish to enter and explore the dreamspace itself (which is vastly more exciting and creative).
-Then comes a selection of dream experiences from classical Chinese texts, many of which show the influence of Taoist modes of soul journeying. In one of the Chinese tales, a man on his way home is shocked to hear his wife partying with strangers inside a temple. He grabs a loose tile and hurls it, breaking plates on the table and scattering the revelers. When he returns home, he finds his wife rising from her bed, chuckling over a funny dream in which she was partying with strangers in a temple, then interrupted by someone throwing a tile that broke the crockery. "This then," Po Hsing-chien (776-827) concludes, "is a case of dreaming spirits being encountered by a waking person."
Another Chinese tale, P'o Sung-ling's "The Painted Wall" – written long before Through the Looking Glass or What Dreams May Come - a man called Chu enters a picture and marries the beautiful maiden he admired in it. Recalled to the other side by his companions' shouts, he turns and sees the maiden in the picture now has the topknot of a married woman. How can this be? A priest responds: "Visions have their origins in those who see them."
-The third, and major section of the book, is devoted to dream- inspired short fiction. As all good writers know, while many dreams come fully shaped as stories or scripts, it can be a challenge to turn dreams into effective fiction. If we start by revealing that the action takes place in a dream, we may set the reader at a distance, losing the magical "just-so" quality of an actual dream experience. So some of the most dreamlike fiction may never mention the word "dream". Caillois has hunted with great skill for stories in which dreaming is an integral and thrilling part of the action.
http://www.mossdreams.com/roger%20caillois.htm
P.S.
"...Our dreams are a second life. I have never been able to penetrate without a shudder those ivory or horned gates which separate us from the invisible world.."
~ Gérard de Nerval, Aurélia
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