Tuesday, March 01, 2005 
Volume Six
MAGIC CIRCLE by Jeane Coutts
In this issue:
Miss Blake Interviews John Skingley
RELATED CONSCIOUSNESS # 1 by Jeane Coutts
Wake Up! You're Creating! by Kristen Fox
Where Did The Maple Tree Go by Bill Marshall
IMPALAS by Jeane Coutts
Practicing Idealism compiled by John McNally
DRUMMING ON THE EDGE OF MAGIC by Jeane Coutts
The Methods of the Third Aspect of Christ -
A Cybersethian Imitation by Bill Ingle
TIGER by Jeane Coutts
ONE IDEAL by Aleida Sluyter
Dinner & A Dead Guy/Aspects Theory by Paul Helfrich
Goodnight Paul by M. Blake
Miss Blake Interviews John Skingley
MB: Hello there 'love John', this interview really has to begin with you giving an explanation of your name. Could it be that you are a closet Don Juan and your fame simply preceded you to Sethnet?
Ha! No, Don Juan I'm not! However, I'm happy with the name as I do feel that I love everyone I meet - although I will admit to having a preference for the females of the species.
But actually, the name 'evolved' here on Sethnet. It was customary, as with most emails, to sign posts with 'Cheers', or 'Regards', or some such. Feeling this was a little too formal in some instances, I started signing 'Love', and eventually I wrote that into my automatic signature line in the software. It was a surprise when a few people then started to refer to me as 'Love John' - a pleasant surprise, I may add.
MB: You have had many a debate with many a member over the years with points within the seth material, some of those debates were more of a running saga, why do you think that was?
Well, of course, I created those sagas, so they must have met a need. The overwhelming emotion attached to them was one of acute frustration, born of an inability to explain my point of view. Note, I don't say to persuade the other person TO my point of view, but to simply present it in a manner that they would understand. The replies I got usually told me that I had failed.
The 'lesson' (see later) was of course that it didn't matter. But I keep buzzing around it like a moth to a candle flame. It's addictive. I must add, though, that such endeavours - trying to find ever new ways of explaining something - do add to my own understanding.
MB: Casting your mind back , do you recall when you first came across Jane's work and what you thought of it at the time? What was the first book you read and which remains a firm favourite?
Oh! Yes, I remember it well. I was attempting to help a certain young lady who had severe behavioural problems and mood swings. However, she was 'into' the spiritual side of life, and was in a way responsible for refocusing my thoughts in that direction, at that time. She obtained a book by Louise Hay called "You Can Heal Your Life," and seemed to get a lot from it. In order that I could follow her progress with this, I bought my own copy.
This book was very interesting, and I would recommend it. In the back of the book, however, Louise suggests many other books for further reading, and buried among them is "The Nature of Personal Reality." Why that one stood out from the rest I don't know. Something about "Personal Reality" struck a chord, perhaps. Anyway, I bought a copy, and the rest, as they say, is history.
Seth’s ideas immediately resonated with me. Many ideas were close to those I had been playing with myself for many years, but he fitted them all together into a consistent whole, and then took them much further. So, I'd say that NOPR was the first, but also probably my 'bible' to this day, if I am forced to choose. I have all except the 'Deleted Sessions'.
MB: Do you have any particular challenges with the material or the philosophy of YCYOR as a whole?
Don't we all! I suppose the principal one is what often seems to be a contradiction on first reading, and that is the relationship between 'personal reality' and 'mass reality'. But to a great extent I think I am over that hump, if not completely down the other side. The problem stems, as I see it, from our conviction that we exist in a rigid, fixed, three-dimensional world that we all share. Even when we begin to break that down and admit, intellectually, that this is not the case, we still find it hard to fully accept the alternative - that nothing is fixed.
Then of course there is the 'problem' of conscious creation. We are 'creating' all the time, but cannot seem to understand just how we have created what we've got, and therefore we cannot see how to create something different. Again, there are cracks of intellectual light, but gaining that experiential knowing - and practical achievement - is something else!
MB:How practical do you find TSM is. Is it a day to day working manual of more like a series of points for philosophical debate?
Oh! If TSM isn't of practical use then it is worthless, except perhaps as something to exercise those 'little grey cells'. There isn't a day when I'm not thinking about my world from a Seth inspired perspective. To me, it is the very fact that IT WORKS that elevates it above all the religious philosophies and dogma we are surrounded with.
Yes, I enjoy a good philosophical debate. Exchanging ideas with others is the main way forward towards a better understanding. But if you cannot then apply the ideas in a practical way, what use are they?
MB: Do you feel the material is dated? Do you feel it will stand the test of time (and practical application) or do you feel there is a need for an update on some key concepts, if so which ones, if not, why is that?
Nothing is ever finished. I think Seth emphasised that - creation continues and cannot help doing so. So there is no way I can see TSM as done and dusted, as some wisdom set in stone. In that direction lies fundamentalism! To the contrary, I see it as a start, a first step along the road. A large step, admittedly, but the road is a long one.
The manner of it's delivery, the language and examples used, will date. Inevitably. To some extent, that aspect of it is already becoming a little dated. The world of 40 years ago was a different place.
Seth attempted to pass on to us a wisdom from beyond our physical world. To do that, it needed translating into ideas and idioms with which we were familiar. These were, of course, only pointers to that greater truth. As our world changes so these pointers need updating.
However, I don't see the central message ever becoming outdated. You cannot go beyond "You create your own reality." That will always be true, and the central theme of all channeled material. But the manner in which that can be explained will always need updating.
MB: Apart from the characters one bumps into online, have you encountered any seth readers (and practitioners) in your day to day in Cornwall? Is Cornwall a co-ordinate point for Sethies?
Well, if it is, I haven't found the portal! No, while I have met people who think in similar ways, it isn't exactly a subject discussed over a pint in the pub. Sethnet continues to be my main contact point - and what a lovely bunch of people!
MB: Speaking of Sethies would you call your self one. Or that other term favored by some 'A Sethian'. If you do what is that and if you do not did you ever once and what caused the change?
I have never thought of myself as 'belonging' to anything, or as 'being' any type of person, or belonging in any pigeon hole. I don't like labels. Having said that, we sometimes do need some way of identifying, of naming or labelling ourselves in conversation. This came up in a recent thread on sethnet. I feel we need a better way of describing our general philosophy - and let's be honest, it is not limited to Seth’s writings these days. Perhaps something like a personal creationist, or personal creator! Words like 'sethian' or 'sethies' are fine - but I get uncomfortable with 'sethism', for example. I see all this as much wider and all embracing than any 'ism'.
MB: Creatively what do you do? You have a web site, could you tell us how that came about and what role the Seth material and principles play in your practice?
Initially, it was 'the thing to do'. Everyone, it seemed, was building a web site. Most hoping to make a fortune in that almost infinite market place! Some did. But today my main motive is simply to 'spread the word'. Every day, either personally or via the media, I see situations where people are getting themselves into such an emotional state because of their adopted belief structures, that I find myself talking to the TV and trying to explain it to them!
I see people asking, Did I do the right thing? What is the best food? Who should I vote for? Should this man go to jail? Should that politician resign? Shouldn't there be more coloured people in the government? More women? What can we do about this trend or that? And I feel like shouting, "IT DOESN'T MATTER!" It's a choice, nothing more. There is no right or wrong way. Who said we need to do ANYTHING about this or that? People are always assuming that because they wouldn't do a certain thing, that no one else should either. And then they spend a great deal of energy trying to stop others doing it - and doing themselves no good at all.
Of course, I realise that such attitudes are THEIR choices, LOL, and not my responsibility, but I do feel an urge to at least present a different world view for those who are ready to hear it. I hope to do this via my web site.
I also consider myself an author, and have a novel that has done the rounds of publishers - unsuccessfully as yet. This to is due for another rewrite, to bring in more of a Sethian view point. I have also started a purely non-fiction book, with a working title of "Reality 101"
MB: Do you find yourself introducing people to the Seth material?
I have only done this once or twice. My copy of NOPR is currently on loan - and I'm lost without it!
MB: Do you recall your dreams in any detail? What do you feel about Seth’s emphasis on the importance of dream art science?
This is an area to be explored. I Love dreaming, especially the lucid - "Hey, I'm asleep and dreaming this!" - type, where you can then take control of the dream - wonderful stuff!. But remembering them in any detail and getting anything informative from them is still in the future. It's another thing on my 'to do' list.
MB: Have you ever tried a spot of channeling or automatic writing yourself. If not, why not?
Yes, I have, and it's another thing I promise myself I'll spend more time doing. The current method is to simply sit at the computer and type whatever comes. It is an interesting state of mind, trying to be completely open to whatever comes, without trying to ensure that it makes sense. It's amazing that it does when you read it through later!
I mostly channel 'someone', unnamed, that I take to be my inner/higher self. I have channeled Jane a few times, too, and she seemed most keen to talk to me. I also got some valuable information about myself from Seth, once. This was not typed, but 'came into my head', just after putting one of his books down and thinking about a 'problem' I had. I 'heard' him clearly, in the same 'voice' as in the book, explaining my 'problem' from an angle that had not occurred to me before.
I am convinced that we are all capable of doing this, and that no 'source' is ever off limits. Beyond this physical world there are no secrets! We are all one. I consider that 'channeling' starts with listening to that 'little voice' that tells us to take an umbrella when we go out - which we usually ignore to our disadvantage. We are 'channeling' when we have a good idea, or suddenly realise something. You might call this 'unconscious channeling'. To do it consciously requires the same degree of 'detachment', but with intent to gain some specific information.
My ambition is to 'voice channel' - we need someone doing this in England!
MB: One of the things you have repeated reacted against is the notion that the physical plane is a school of any type and that humans are hear to learn lessons. This forms one the fundamental teachings of many spiritual traditions and new age teachings, indeed I do not recall of hand any teaching/material which does not at some point claim this. How have you come to your conclusion that being here is not about lessons. What for you is being here about then?
Yes, I think this is important. As I see it, ALL these ideas stem from, or at least reflect, the religious notion that we are all in some way 'sinful', base, or inferior, and that we must work hard to 'rise above' that status. In religion, there is the added idea that there are tests to pass, that we must satisfy St. Peter before being allowed though those Golden Gates. This is, of course, all tripe.
I would challenge your statement that there are no teachings that do not include the concept of lessons. Agreed, Seth speaks about things 'we are here to learn', but these are things we have chosen as desired experiences, not as exams to be passed before we are allowed to move on. If you want to ski down a mountain you need to learn to ski! But no one imposes that requirement upon you. It is not a necessity. You may choose to experience skiing down a mountain without leaning first!
We are not 'learning' conscious creation, we are remembering it. After all, we helped design and create this physical existence, so we must know how we did it. But we have become so hypnotised by the 'perfection' of our creation that we have forgotten that it IS our creation, and now see it a bit like Frankenstein saw his monster - as something out of control and out to get us!
We are born of God, or ATI. We are a part of God. We explore what we are, we explore all aspects of our creativity, as a part of God exploring 'Its Self'. There is nothing to attain except experience. THIS is what "being here is about."
MB: When you look at TSM as a body of work do you see any glaring omissions or areas that could do with more clarity?
One of the aspects that I, personally, would have liked Seth to have done, is to provide more practical examples to back up his more theoretical messages. Some of it can seem very 'technical' and obtuse, as some highly intellectual concept that we must struggle hard to understand, when a few simple practical examples would immediately put the whole thing into a down to earth context.
MB: If you could speak to Jane or Seth and you could ask 5 questions what would they be?
Well, as I said, I have already asked Jane and Seth a few! I'd prefer to be granted three wishes!
MB: What do you feel about body art and how do people react to your adornments? What sort of statement do you feel you make with your piercings and tattoos?
Body art is as old as humanity, and comes in many forms today. Most women (and an increasing number of men) engage in it when they apply make-up! What I find a little odd is the artificial boundaries society places on such things, although these are changing fast. For example, wearing a ring in an ear lobe attracts no comment at all, but having one in a lip or nose is another matter entirely. Very odd!
Statement? No, I'm making no statement, any more than choosing what clothes to ware is making a statement - unless the statement is, "This is me!" For me, it is a part of simply being who I want to be, in the certain knowledge that I may 'be' whoever I like, and there are no rights or wrongs involved.
Other people's reaction have always been positive. With the exception of a single shop assistant I remember who was very clearly struggling hard to be polite and helpful in line with shop policy! I smiled, partly to break the ice, and partly out of amusement. It was, of course, her 'problem' not mine.
MB: Do you feel you will incarnate as physical again...do you want to be?
Ah! An interesting question. You see, I'm not sure how this works. Traditionally, we expect to be 'born again'. And yet all time is simultaneous, not linear, so 'I' am already living other lives 'in the future'. I think Elias pointed this out, saying that we will not experience 'coming back' in that way. I certainly do have reservations about dying, if I am to find myself becoming aware of being a small child, and having to go through all that growing up again.
MB: If you could summarize your philosophy of life in one sentence what would that be?
"I create my own reality!"
MB: Dear Love John, its been wonderful talking with you and you still owe me those buttered crumpets.
RELATED CONSCIOUSNESS # 1
by Jeane Coutts
RELATED CONSCIUOSNESS #1 is part of a series in which I have tried to express mankinds oneness with ALL THAT IS.
The striations of rock in the background vary from various rock formations on earth as well as formations from metiorites from outerspace.
The outline and spirit of humanity is superimposed to create the feeling of mankind's oneness with all that is, and to express the idea that all consciousness is one.
Wake Up! You're Creating!
by Kristen Fox
What if I told you that everything you experience in physical reality is a reflection of who you are in each moment? That each experience, each person, each event, each object, is a projection of yours onto the screen of life, an expression designed to remind you of your incredible power as a creator?
Let's say that each of us is a being of energy and that we each resonate or vibrate with our own unique signature vibration. These differences in vibration create our physical bodies differently, as well as our experiences, and the thoughts that we entertain, and so, you get what you vibrate! More simply, like attracts like, or, you get what you focus on. Not only are we an extension of our Whole Selves cleverly directing our focus onto the details of physical reality - but as we go about our lives we are the ones who pick the perspectives and the probabilities that we live out...by choosing what we focus on!
Now, you might say that you could definitely see where SOME things reflect who you are, like that new car that you just bought, or that apple pie you just made, or the grinning child you just tickled, but certainly not EVERYTHING... especially those things in your life that you find at least somewhat disturbing. That's where the 'becoming conscious' part fits in. If there's a part of your life that you are not happy with, that's probably a place where you have been creating haphazardly and are unaware that you're doing it. That is, you're sending out a certain vibration without your conscious knowing - like the background music piped in at your local grocery store, or the wallpaper in your kitchen, or the air that you breathe - these objects or experiences are all a part of your life, yet you may accept them as simply a part of the WAY LIFE IS, rather than a reflection of your personal symbology or vibration. One way to get a handle on this concept is to start looking at your life and the events you experience as you would interpret a nighttime dream. You'll never look at your shoes or your annoying coworker the same way again!
I remember the first time I became conscious of an assumption I'd made about 'how life was.' I was about 13 years old and had gone to a friend's house to stay the night. When they pulled out the extra bed and her mother made it for me, she put it together without a top sheet - just a bottom sheet, a blanket, and a pillow. I remember wondering if I should tell her that she forgot it, until I saw that my friend's bed was made the same way. This is a funny but important example - it wasn't until I met with this contrasting experience that I began to see the actual framework of beliefs (vibrations) in which I grew up. I was suddenly aware of the song being played in the background - I now saw the wallpaper, or at least peeked under the corner of it - as if for the first time. Talk about opening Pandora's box!
So, how then was the fact that my bed at home was made with a top sheet a reflection of who I was or what I was vibrating? That's where our feelings about what we experience come into play. Contrasting experiences also allow us to see our own emotional reactions more clearly. Now, what if I told you that 'feeling bad' about something is not just a part of how life is, but a call to pay attention because what you're choosing to focus on and experience in that moment is not aligned with who you really are? And, what if I told you that 'feeling good' is not just a part of how life is, but a call to pay attention because what you're choosing IS aligned with who you are?
We feel good when our vibrations are aligned with what we're experiencing. But we feel BAD not just when our vibrations are NOT aligned with what we're experiencing, but when we alter our own vibration to match the discordant vibration of what we're experiencing. In essence, instead of being the director and setting our OWN tone to create in joy and alignment, we've become reactive to things and events we perceive OUT THERE. The ironic part is that we're the ones that created the experiences in the first place and just seem to have forgotten - and so we perpetuate the loop of projection and reaction until we decide to jump out of the cycle. At that point, we stop identifying ourselves with all the 'stuff' out there and come back to our own centers, where it all starts.
The process of becoming aware of what we've been creating and then learning to consciously alter our own beliefs (vibrations) to create what we WANT can be one of the more challenging and psychological tasks of our time. And yet, isn't that exactly what we came here to do in this time of awakening? We're given prophecies of doom and dramatic situations to help shake us up and make us ask, 'Isn't there something ELSE? Something BETTER? What are my other choices beyond FEAR?'
The more we let go of our habitual stance of focusing on fear as reality and instead look to love and joy and connectedness, the more we align with our own sense of personal integrity - the more we INTEGRATE and work WITH that divine aspect of each of us. Although our unconscious lives may have created through a habitual focus in fear, our growing conscious awareness now knows it has the choice to choose love where it once defaulted to fear. And when we realize this, then we are truly free. And then, that's how we vibrate, and how we create our new experiences in physical reality!
[Originally published in The Edge, February 1999.]
Kristen Fox is an artist, writer and co-author of the Conscious Creation website with her partner John McNally. You can also browse her Art of Foxvox - Celtic & Eclectic Designs shop (check out the metaphysical section!), visit her Art and Photo Gallery, or stop by her weblog.
IMPALAS by Jeane Coutts
This impression was inspired by the carvings on a cliff in Lybia. These carvings have been known by the title of the CRYING COWS.
I enjoyed the contrast of the ancient cliff carvings, (5000 BCE) and the brief and beautiful impalas of the present.
Where Did The Maple Tree Go
by Bill Marshall
There was a time when my years were few
That impossible things was something to do.
Long ago when I was young and free
I'd climb my way up the Maple tree.
The woods held magic and stories untold,
And fear was reserved for the graying old.
Yes, fear was reserved for the graying old,
Yes, fear was reserved for the graying old.
There was a time 'fore I learned the rules,
When caves were hideouts and pennies were jewels.
I jumped from roofs in a superman cape
And swam wide rivers and deep blue lakes.
The woods held magic and stories untold,
And fear was reserved for the graying old.
Yes, fear was reserved for the graying old.
Yes, fear was reserved for the graying old.
Then came the time when I started to learn
That life was a struggle, on a dime it could turn.
I could run so fast and nothing more,
That to be protected I must lock my door.
The trees I avoided, the woods I did scorn.
My parents did tell me, my parents did warn.
Yes, my parents did tell me, my parents did warn.
Yes, my parents did tell me, my parents did warn.
I became a victim, a pawn of life,
A windblown feather in a world of strife.
I forgot the magic of the trees and the woods,
And put my chips on "Thou Shalts," and "You Shoulds."
The trees I avoided the woods I did scorn.
The world did tell me, the world did warn.
Yes, the world did tell me, the world did warn.
Yes, the world did tell me, the world did warn.
So now I am graying and filled with fear,
Life's hapless victim and void of cheer.
But now and then I remember the ME
That romped to the top of the Maple tree.
I forgot the power of a kid's "What If"
The joy of sailing on a makeshift skiff.
Yes, I forgot the power of a kid's "What If"
The joy of sailing on a makeshift skiff.
So where did they go those wonders of me
That had me climbing the tallest tree.
What made me scared to take a chance,
To move my feet in freedom's dance.
Someone once said that to be as this child
Would turn the world to an Emerald Isle.
Yes, would turn this world to an Emerald Isle.
Yes, would turn this world to an Emerald Isle.
I'll go on back to the me of then.
I'll slide on down to the magic of when.
I'll tread on back to before I learned
That life is a struggle, on a dime it can turn.
I'll live the rest of my life in this realm,
With me as the driver, with me at the helm.
Yes, with me as the driver, with me at the helm.
Yes, with me as the driver, with me at the helm.
Oh, with me as the driver, with me at the helm.
Oh, with me as the driver, with me at the helm.
Practicing Idealism
compiled by John McNally
Originally posted by Paul H:
"There is nothing more stimulating, more worthy of actualization, than the desire to change the world for the better. That is indeed each person's mission. You begin by working in that area of activity that is your own unique one, with your own life and activities. You begin in the corner of an office, or on the assembly line, or in the advertising agency, or in the kitchen. You begin where you are." -- Seth, The Individual and the Nature of Mass Events, session 850.
"I never look at the masses as my responsibility; I look at the individual. I can only love one person at a time - just one, one, one. So you being. I began - I picked up one person. Maybe if I didn't pick up that one person, I wouldn't have picked up forty-two thousand.... The same thing goes for you, the same thing in your family, the same thing in your church, your community. Just begin - one, one, one." -- Mother Theresa
From Don:
Hi Paul,
I just want to add some more material to your post.
I think that I was the assembly line type of idealist. Even before that, I remember my 6th grade teacher telling us about the theory of communism. She said that all people worked, put the results together and shared it equally. Idealist that I was, I boldly said "That doesn't sound so bad to me." Instantly, a number of other students blurted out evidence of society's brainwashing by saying things like "Dirty Commie! That's wrong! What an idiot!." Of course that was in 1970, during the Cold War. I was crushed. Luckily, I had a good teacher and she pointed out to the class that Communism, in theory, was not a bad idea but that in practise it usually turned out bad.
My point is that idealists often get stepped on and it is easy to become bitter instead.
I suspect that most of us do not spend nearly enough effort being practising idealists because of the way that we are treated.
I hope that it is ok to post an excerpt from the January edition of The Sethnet Journal? It will show why I think that practicing idealism is a good thing for your Self.
MB: Do you ever feel that Jane's message of the practicing idealist, while worthy, is ultimately impractical?
Don: The dreams of an idealist can never be fully realized in physical reality just as value fulfillment can never be fully realized. If it were possible, we would have to come up with new dreams, which would then need to be realized, and so on. In that sense, being an idealist is impractical because the job is never done.
However, just being a practicing idealist will help you to be true to yourself and that will have it's own rewards.
Idealism seems to be impractical because ideals are often not materialized and that causes frustration, which leads to cynicism. As long as you realize that ideals are not always manifested, then you can cheerfully continue being an idealist. Being a cynic or pessimist is definitely impractical because such thinking will color your life and make you unhappy.
Best Wishes,
Don
From: John Skingley
Thanks, Paul.
I feel that this passage is often given a 'spin' that was not intended. My interpretation is - in the light of Seth’s pronouncements about "Which world," etc, and statements concerning 'Personal reality' - that he is telling us to concentrate on our own personal realities, on our 'own unique area of activity,' rather than to focus on 'the world out there'. We cannot change another's reality.
Only by concentrating on 'our own reality' will we create around us, individually, a world that we, individually, consider to be 'changed for the better'. The important thing here is that each of us have different ideas about what that new world 'should' be like. And we can all have it! By doing this we will, again individually, attract to us other people, events and environments that match our desires.
And so worlds are born...
Love, John.
From John M:
Hi John,
The greatest misinterpretation I find with this (and a few other of Seth’s quotes) is the insistance that you have to convince other people that your way is the "correct" one. This is of course the basis of every religious war in history, and something Seth covered when he talked about zealotism, but the zealots (of course) are always blind to their own actions. :)
John M
From Richard Deming:
Don: Idealism seems to be impractical because ideals are often not materialized and that causes frustration, which leads to cynicism. As long as you realize that ideals are not always manifested, then you can cheerfully continue being an idealist. Being a cynic or pessimist is definitely impractical because such thinking will color your life and make you unhappy.
Hi Don,
Good reply to Paul H. 'To thine own self be true' is a lot deeper than many folks believe. Imagination and emotions are the most concentrated forms of energy that we possess as physical beings.
Seth in "The Nature of Personal Reality" pg. 99: "Emotions send thoughts from this interior reality THROUGH the barrier between nonphysical and physical into the "objective" world--no small feat, and one that is constantly repeated."
I have learned how my imagination with feelings toward an "ideal", create a Big reality to this M/D practitioner and believer. Have recently been observing how Real some of my ideas and thoughts are as far as how they elucidate the meaning of channeled entities material in comparison to my beliefs, on 3/D world--verbatim! If it wasn't for TSM, Elias and other channeled entities breakdown of how we create our reality, I would, as you say, be not only frustrated but feeling schizophrenic. Thoughts are Real. Emotions are the driving force.
I suppose my practical application of "ideals" are materialized in my own life, and create a value-fulfilled existence and I have to accept--to a degree--RA's, accepted beliefs, and other modes of existence in my environment. Even though I know and believe, that I not only have a "better" way of functioning in this world, but can clarify many misconceptions relative to how, why, this world is here and how, why we should change it. And how to accomplish this! My mind is very inspirational at times, and getting better with age--thanks to a knowing and believing in channeled teachings. Esp. TSM!
Trying to keep myself practical, I suppose: Richard
From Paul H:
For me, the difference is between cynicism and its inherent beliefs in scarcity and being true to your vision and its inherent beliefs in seeing things through, even with the inevitable rejection, competition, or destruction by consensus or officially accepted values.
As long as that vision benefits the collective in a big way, it always prevails. For example, Tesla vs. Edison's means of delivering electricity to the masses. Tesla's wireless technologies may have more benefits, but we still all have access to electricity via Edison's wired technologies. And engineers still study Tesla's work for new ideas that may yet return to a viable marketplace.
Also, the American Revolution still stands as one of the greatest experiments in self-governance that widened awareness beyond monarchy, oligarchy, and theocracy (though the Tibetans had a very healthy theocracy, as opposed to the current Iranian version of Shia and sharia law).
As Love John mentioned, it's not so much about changing others or wanting to change others, that's the evangelical religious worldview held by the Bush, Wolfowitz, Cheney, and Rove administration. And they ARE changing people's realities through chronic violations, intrusive warfare, and evangelical zeal. But of course, they don't create anything but their own realties through the whole ordeal. It's a subtle difference.
This all circles back to the individual in relation to the collective and the fact that there is no conscious creation without nested conscious co-creation, a point often missed in Sethian interpretations that lean toward solipsism and narcissism, but have been pointed out vigorously in The Nature of Personal Reality and its counterpart The Individual and the Nature of Mass Events.
Paul H.
From Don:
Richard: Good reply to Paul H. 'To thine own self be true' is a lot deeper than many folks believe. Imagination and emotions are the most concentrated forms of energy that we possess as physical beings.
Yes, I find that being true to my own self is more important than following a religion or other teachings. If I violate my own sense of honor or my ideals, I will feel a self-loathing that I would not feel if I was to sin against a God or offend someone's morals.
Richard: I have learned how my imagination with feelings toward an "ideal", create a Big reality to this M/D practitioner and believer. Have recently been observing how Real some of my ideas and thoughts are as far as how they elucidate the meaning of channeled entities material in comparison to my beliefs, on 3/D world--verbatim! If it wasn't for TSM, Elias and other channeled entities breakdown of how we create our reality, I would, as you say, be not only frustrated but feeling schizophrenic. Thoughts are Real. Emotions are the driving force.
I am very much in debt to Seth, Kris and others, also the people who channel them and take the time to share the teachings with us. If I only had worldly teachings to live by, I would be a bitter cynic. TSM has given me a larger picture of life, if only because I know now that this is not my only life and death is not the end. How many worldy people (not idealistic) are driven to commit violations because they rhink that this is their only life and they have to get what they can, while they can?
Emotions, in this case frustrated idealism, can make a person think they have to 'look out for #1'.
Trying to keep myself practical, I suppose: Richard
Be true to yourself Richard,
Don
From Don
Paul H For me, the difference is between cynicism and its inherent beliefs in scarcity and being true to your vision and its inherent beliefs in seeing things through, even with the inevitable rejection, competition, or destruction by consensus or officially accepted values.
Hi Paul!
Isn't cynicism a mindset in which a person believes that people, in general, are motivated by self-interest and other smallminded motives?
So that you will know how I define these various mindsets, let me give an illustration:
Imagine that a coveted position has opened in a large organization. The idealist will believe that the job should go to the most- qualified applicant.
The optimist will believe that s/he will get the job.
The pessimist will believe that someone else will get the job.
The cynic will believe that the best buttkisser will get the job.
The altruist, if chosen, would tell the boss if someone else was better qualified.
Now, is the altruist an idealist who acts on his/her ideals? In that case an altruist is a practicing idealist.
Here's something I find interesting: The optimist and the pessimist are both thinking in terms of 'I'; I will or I won't get the job.
The idealist and the cynic are both thinking in terms of ideals; the person will be chosen for the best of reasons or the worst, but ideals will be honored or ignored.
Paul H: As long as that vision benefits the collective in a big way, it always prevails. For example, Tesla vs. Edison's means of delivering electricity to the masses. Tesla's wireless technologies may have more benefits, but we still all have access to electricity via Edison's wired technologies. And engineers still study Tesla's work for new ideas that may yet return to a viable marketplace.
I'm not sure how I see this. Edison's ideas were more practical and easier to implement quickly but Tesla's ideas might have been of greater benefit in the long run. It seems to me that ideas that have immediate benefit are usually chosen over those that take longer to implement.
To make it more difficult to be sure, I'm not sure how many of Tesla's more wild ideas would have actually worked. Some of his ideas seem to fall into the same realm as the Philadelphia Experiment, Death Rays and such. I'm not saying that his ideas won't work, but just that I don't know.
Paul H Also, the American Revolution still stands as one of the greatest experiments in self-governance that widened awareness beyond monarchy, oligarchy, and theocracy (though the Tibetans had a very healthy theocracy, as opposed to the current Iranian version of Shia and sharia law).
I am very much impressed with the American Experiment. Though the American govt makes stupid mistakes, the nation itself was founded by idealists (Jefferson, Franklin) and based on their ideals.
Paul H: As Love John mentioned, it's not so much about changing others or wanting to change others, that's the evangelical religious worldview held by the Bush, Wolfowitz, Cheney, and Rove administration. And they ARE changing people's realities through chronic violations, intrusive warfare, and evangelical zeal. But of course, they don't create anything but their own realties through the whole ordeal. It's a subtle difference.
According to Seth in session 850, which you quoted, "You are a fanatic if you CONSIDER possible killing for the pursuit of your ideals." So, I guess that makes GWB a fanatic. He is a Crusader for his religion and he is up against people who are Jihadists for their religion. The Jihadists also kill for their religion. I guess they deserve each other.
Paul H: This all circles back to the individual in relation to the collective and the fact that there is no conscious creation without nested conscious co-creation, a point often missed in Sethian interpretations that lean toward solipsism and narcissism, but have been pointed out vigorously in The Nature of Personal Reality and its counterpart The Individual and the Nature of Mass Events.
Seth said that "You begin where you are." Mother Teresa said, "Just begin - one, one, one."
Also, that is how I feel. I will practice my ideals right where I am. If I see an injustice, I will try to right it.
Best of Wishes for you,
Don
DRUMMING ON THE EDGE OF MAGIC
by Jeane Coutts
DRUMMING ON THE EDGE OF MAGIC was inspired by the Grateful Dead, and because I play drums, (congas).
I identify with the spirits drawn into the atmosphere and vibrations of the drums. The spirits are known as the orishe.They appear in the background, drawn by the magic of the drums.
The Methods of the Third Aspect of Christ - A Cybersethian Imitation
by Bill Ingle
Special Edition of Loose in Time
I finally managed to finish this, after several weeks of field trials, and offer it to all who might be interested -- who knows? There might be one or two here and there.
A. Background -- Seth quotes from Seth Speaks (note a somewhat parallel but more aruous & complex exercise in Session 448 of The Early Sessions -- Finding the center of your self -- found at Nirvikalpa.com
1.) Session 586:
....He will clearly state methods by which each individual can attain a state of intimate contact with his own entity; the entity to some extent being man's mediator with All That Is."
2.) From Session 527:
."..the inner self being the portion of the soul that is within you. The inner self knows its relationship with the soul. It is a portion of the self that acts, you might say, as a messenger between the soul and the present personality. You must also realize that while I use terms like "soul" or "entity," "inner self," and "present personality," I do so only for the sake of convenience, for one is a part of the other; there is no point where one begins and another ends."
It follows, then, that the inner self or "messenger" is key to attaining a "state of intimate contact" with your entity and all that's required to get things started is to consciously focus on it.
B. The Exercise (A process, really, with two distinct steps):
1). Seated comfortably, take several slow deep breaths, then relax your body.
Close your eyes and allow your mind to become gradually quiet -- you are not in the slightest hurry.
Imagine your inner self; do this with some persistence, allowing this mental creation to become your primary focus.
After doing this for a few days (in some cases only a few moments -- this varies from person to person) you will begin to feel or experience Inner Self, so the exercise evolves as you do it, that doing changing you and your experience.
The Inner Self is always present, simply forgotten in the fog of life; this part of the exercise is designed to cut through the fog, much as many view meditation as a means of stilling the "chatter" of the "separate self," the conscious mind.
2.) Imagine that you have attained "intimate contact" with your entity; focus on this imagining with some steady and gentle persistence, "allowing" it.
That's all there is to it, as simple as it sounds; there is little left to say. Whether you try this or not is entirely your choice, but I would refrain from discounting it without doing so.
Bill I.
TIGER
by Jeane Coutts
ONE IDEAL
by Aleida Sluyter
When you are particularly
Enamored with physical reality
You will seek ways and means
To make THAT your heaven.
If you are particularly
Enamored with science,
You will seek to create YOUR heaven
Through scientific means.
If you are particularly
Enamored with emotions,
THAT becomes your platform
In creating Paradise.
And on and on it goes
Each and every human
Creating THEIR version
Of what ideal means to them.
Could the whole dream
Contain all and every vision?
Where everyone is content
In his own perceived ideal?
Could it become an interplay
Between all and every vision?
I think it can be so.
I look at Nature
And see it portrayed
In ONE possible way:
The way of the God of Nature.
Dinner & A Dead Guy/Aspects Theory
By Paul M. Helfrich
February 21, 2005
I wanted to condense my Dinner and a Dead Guy (D&DG) posts, originally posted in the Kris Chronicles Forum, into a single Topic here. They show the unfolding of recent Kris material over the past seven months from my Dream-Art Science perspective. The first D&DG group session occurred on July 5, 2004, and continues every 2-3 weeks here in Castaic, California via speakerphone with Serge Grandbois, Mark Bukator, and others in Toronto, Canada. Recently, Norm and Reta Farb have joined us from Independence, Oregon via three-way conference call. All of these sessions are freely available on the Kris Chronicles website.
I interpret the D&DG sessions within a broad theoretical framework that I call Integral Conscious Creation (ICC) - a hybrid of Ken Wilber's Integral Psychology and Integral Spirituality with an emphasis on the channeling phenomenon, and its physical, mental, and spiritual domains as exemplified in the work of Seth/Jane Roberts, Elias/Mary Ennis, and Kris/Serge Grandbois. While ICC is not a Dream-Art Science as outlined by Seth, it is a bridging methodology that paves the way for authentic Dream-Art Sciences down the road.
Even though my recent research has been on Kris/Serge and Elias/Mary, I inevitably circle back to the work of Seth/Jane for comparison and analysis. Why? First, I've been studying the Seth material since 1976, and second, both Kris and Elias have made somewhat controversial public claims that they may be involved in some kind of collective gestalt or "lineage mind" (my term) with Seth/Jane/Ruburt and Rob Butts/Joseph. For example, Elias claims to be expanding upon the foundation laid by Seth and thus uses many similar concepts and jargon (technical terms) used by Seth/Jane. Kris also uses similar concepts and jargon, and likewise employs his own variations.
All three sources discuss at least four frameworks of consciousness (Seth), Regional Areas of consciousness (Elias), levels of consciousness (Kris), and the nine families of consciousness. There are additional similarities worth exploring listed in A Preliminary Overview of the Kris Material in Relation to Seth and Elias.
Furthermore, Kris recently claimed to be a "progenitor essence" that fragmented the original Seth essence in the context of what he calls clans/clusters of consciousness (which are similar to Seth’s "lifeclouds" or pyramid energy gestalts, and Elias' pools of consciousness). For more on this claim, see Kris on Kris.
While there is much I still don't understand, my Integral Conscious Creation framework allows me to more accurately situate and compare their various claims and insights. As a result of my participation in these D&DG group sessions, and the Elias forum for the past 7.5 years, I've reached an important conclusion. There is an important concept that ties Seth, Elias, and Kris together in a way that no other source can lay claim to thus far, namely, Aspects Theory. What is Aspects Theory? More on that shortly.
In the meantime, it's popular in the Seth community to use the term conscious creation as a unifying concept, or sometimes YCYOR (you create your own reality) to represent the core ideas in the Seth material. But I would like to suggest that this concept has been around for millennia. It's traceable back to the New Thought movement founded by Phineas Quimby in mid-19th century America, and as such doesn't accurately define what makes the Seth material unique from other bodies of work.
Moreover, conscious creation extends all the way back in some form to the Idealist philosophers from Plato to Plotinus and Nagarjuna, onwards to Fichte, Schelling, Schopenhauer, Hegel, and so on. Now, one might say the same thing about Aspects Theory, but my research shows that there are many unique maps of the psyche that have been presented only during the past forty years. These maps point out emergent conditions in human evolution that were not present in premodern maps of the psyche, including those of Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sufism, Taoism, and more recent bodies of channeled work including Blavatsky, Bailey, Cayce, Shucman, and others.
Still, even though the idea that mind creates reality is perennial, Seth/Jane did coin the phrase "you create your own reality," and it went on to become a New Age mantra in the 1970s. More recently, YCYOR was uttered in the New Age hit movie What the Bleep Do We Know? by physicist/philosopher Amit Goswami, showing its staying power. As such, YCYOR is still very much a popular metaphysical buzzword. However, it has lost much of its original meaning and been watered down by ideology and prerational interpretations of Seth/Jane's original works. For example, see Ken Wilber's excellent critiques of YCYOR and channeling as inadequate New Age paradigms in Boomeritis (2002). Wilber doesn't critique the work of Seth/Jane per se, just flawed interpretations of it.
Now, let's return to Aspects - the key common element found in the Seth, Elias, and Kris materials. Jane Roberts introduced Aspects Theory in three Aspect Psychology books as a means to make sense of her psychic experiences since she couldn't find adequate explanations in the conventional religions or sciences of her day. These books detailed her rich gamut of psychic experiences that went far beyond only channeling Seth. They are:
1. Adventures in Consciousness: An Introduction to Aspect Psychology (1975)
2. Psychic Politics (An Aspect Psychology Book) (1976)
3. The God of Jane: A Psychic Manifesto (An Aspect Psychology Book) (1981)
Beginning with Adventures in Consciousness, Jane writes:
"This book is the story of some of those events, and an introduction to what I call Aspect Psychology. I offer it as a framework through which previously denied psychic elements of life can be viewed as proper, beneficial, and natural conditions of our consciousness.
"Such a theory is sorely needed. My correspondence shows me that many people are in a quandary as they try to understand their own psychic experiences. Those curious enough to allow their consciousness unconventional freedom are often labeled 'emotionally disturbed' by psychologists, or considered 'possessed' in the light of religious beliefs.
"For several years I've also been involved with a group of people, my students, who embark with me upon adventures in consciousness. We give ourselves freedom to perceive the reality of the moment as it appears through the lens of other, alternate, states of awareness. I began to develop the ideas in Aspect Psychology precisely because my experiences and those of my students and readers raised so many questions. p. vii-viii." The basic idea is that the psyche consists of nested aspects found in the perennial Great Chain of Being, ranging from matter to body to mind to soul to spirit. Jane outlined the focus personality (outer ego), subconscious, source self (inner ego), and All-That-Is as nested structures that create/co-create within the vast Spacious Present of All-That-Is. This was her way of explaining what Seth covered in greater detail in his books: the psyche, probable selves, simultaneous time frameworks, frameworks of consciousness, and more. Thus, aspects are not discrete things or objects, but subjective aspects of the psyche within All-That-Is that arise to contend with the vagaries and vicissitudes of physical experience.
"I see Aspect Psychology as a way of looking at life and of viewing personality in its physical and nonphysical aspects. Obviously then, this is my version of reality, as experienced through several layers of the psyche. I am not offering it as The Truth, but as a means of discovering what the truths of ourselves are.
"I don't present Aspects as a dogma, but as a means of cutting through dogmas. At the same time, I'm going to refrain as much as possible from using phrases like 'It seems to me,' or 'perhaps this is so,' or other qualifying statements. Obviously Aspects is the way reality appears to me.
"There are some new terms, not too many, and I am including them in a glossary at the end of the book for handy reference." p. 102. In Adventures in Consciousness, Jane details the culmination of a yeasty ten-year period in which she developed a mature set of abilities that identified at least ten different aspects of her personality. And while they initially manifested as altered states, they eventually matured into abilities she could invoke at will. So I don't consider these altered states in the conventional sense of temporary or "peak experiences", but stable, permanent traits consciously available through volition and intention:
1. Seth Trance (a robust personality with full emotions, masculine qualities, and low booming voice, dictated 23 books of philosophy, twice weekly sessions by arrangement, spontaneous with permission).
2. Seth II Trance (an asexual personality, soft spoken, unemotional, spontaneous with permission, sensation of upward shift through chute or "pyramid," further "inward" than Seth).
3. Sumari (Cyprus) (included singing, chanting, pantomime in ESP class, Cyprus is also a character in the Oversoul Seven books but the focus is associated with Sumari, spontaneous with permission).
4. Sumari Poetry & Math (poetry and evocative material on mathematical principles, private, spontaneous with permission).
5. Sumari (inner silence transforms into inner sound, for translation into English, spontaneous with permission).
6. "Seven" (a distinct personality tone available as slightly altered state, features automatic writing to create a series of fictional books, spontaneous with permission).
7. Helper (a sensed energy form, volitionally projected to others in need of help, both emotional or physical, spontaneous with permission). [Note: one of Kris' Sisters/Dakinis is named Helper]
8. Special State (stronger, deeper version of Sumari, never accessed from waking state, always from another altered state, access to some kind of "cosmic language" that has to be translated through her nervous system).
9. Reincarnational Dramas (students would work out underlying issues through some kind of role playing in which they temporarily assumed different personality Aspects.
10. Probable Selves (Seth introduced this concept and provided exercises to explore it. The basic idea is that we each have multiple selves that bifurcate in linear terms. He also introduced Alpha 1 and 2 as states of consciousness that indirectly mirrored the actual brain state. Alpha is the state of relaxation, and prior to sleep).
Jane's formulation of Aspect Psychology was embryonic, based solely on her introspective experiences and has yet to be integrated into the various schools of contemporary cognitive science. But that's because she was ahead of her time due to her highly developed psychic abilities, and most academic psychologists aren't gifted psychics. Though the transpersonal psychology movement was just beginning in the mid-1960s with Grof, Maslow, Fadiman, Murphy, Assagioli, and others, none of those researchers had the kind of abilities that Jane had, and thus had no direct experience of the kinds aspects selves detailed in Jane's Aspects Theory.
I believe we can further develop Jane's Aspects Theory within the Integral Conscious Creation paradigm to include the insights offered by Elias, Kris, and others to explore a much wider map of the psyche than those found in conventional religions and sciences. For example, Elias has offered extensive information on what he calls aspects of essence that is consonant with Jane's work. Kris has delivered material on aspects that shows interesting similarities, too.
Therefore, I have discovered an organizing principle in which to further explore as well as identify additional sources that continue to develop Aspects Theory in the context of what I believe to be an emergent global "lineage mind." As such, I don't believe that Aspects Theory is limited to English speaking or Western countries, though overall life conditions during the past forty years have allowed it to emerge there. I now use it as a litmus test to explore the depth and span of any body of channeled or otherwise inspired metaphysical material dealing with the psyche. The idea is not to create a new religion, but bridge traditional religions and sciences toward the creation of authentic Dream-Art Sciences down the road, for example, the kind pointed out by Seth in The Unknown Reality, that deal with expanded sciences like physics, medicine, and psychology.
This is not to say that Aspects Theory is the only means of validating channeled material, it's not. But I do maintain that in terms of total depth and span, Aspects Theory offers tremendous explanatory and story-telling potential when explored through Wilber's integral paradigm and opens the door for new sciences that include physical, mental, and spiritual domains of human experience. It further explores a host of as-yet-still-unexplained paranormal phenomena and can also be adopted for therapy and healing, including the UFO/alien abduction phenomenon, near-death experiences, lucid dreams and projections of consciousness, psi phenomenon, animal telepathy and clairvoyance, dissociative personality/channeling, glossolalia, and more. These phenomenon are still on the edges of current religious and scientific paradigms, and require news ways of thinking to explain and further develop them.
In summary, I believe Aspects Theory provides an organizing principle in which to move forward with emerging integral methods that will lead us toward authentic Dream-Art Sciences down the road, even though there are decades of work that lie ahead, and miles to go before we sleep.
Goodnight Paul
"What do I need to do to make you come?"
"Paint me remembrances of yourself, through every stroke, make me feel you, in every in every image you bring forth, show me you."
"Then you offer your self as canvas. Could you stand it? You seem such a delicate thing. Too fragile for me to turn into you into the arena in which I act. Is that what you want"?
"Yes"
"But this me that you call forth has a life of its own, in its actions. It comes through and its force is wild. Aggressive, even, feral, demanding, dark selfish and singular."
" I know, do it anyway."
Paul Jackson Pollock. Long Island 1949, Photo Copyright Arnold Newman
"The creative abilities operate? appearing within consecutive time, but with the main work done outside of it entirely?" -- The Magical Approach, pg. 3.
"Are memories in all the paintings of who you are"?
"Yes and some memories came later, after the paintings were done. You see darling I was always going to be an Artist of some kind. If nothing else I would always have studied the Arts. People in general have always bored me. I have been within my own shell even when I was with others but I was not lonely. The fame bored me, all I wanted was to paint what I was, what I felt, what I knew I was. An artist of any worth paints what he is."
"All true knowledge is direct experience. It cannot be classified, it cannot be named, and it cannot be set down in black and white. True knowledge is only experience, direct experience, and a matter of the inner senses." -- The Early Sessions, Book 3 Session 133.
Photo Copyright Hans Natmuth
"True creativity comes from enjoying the moments, which then fulfil themselves, and a part of the creative process is indeed the art of relaxation, the letting go, for that triggers magical activity..." -- The Magical Approach, page 8.
"Was it hard, to be yourself, being yourself amidst it all"?
"It was always hard, but easy too. People's opinions of me were irrelevant. Many found it hard to accept me, they called me a rebel. Being oneself was considered an act of rebellion. I really did not care about them. It was not an act. When I got further away from the usual painters tools such as easel, palette and brushes they thought I was mad and said so. Loudly. They were a braying pack at my door. So what if I preferred sticks and trowels and dripping fluid paint or heavy impasto. So what that I added sand and broken glass? So what"?
"Many concepts, huge advancements and practical inventions, simply wait in abeyance in the world of dreams until some man accepts them as possibilities within his frame of reality." The Early Sessions, Book 3, Session 115.
Photo Copyright Hans Natmuth
"This feeling of abandoning oneself to the power and force of one's own life does not lead to a mental segregation, but instead allows the self to sense the part that it plays in the creative drama of a universe. Such understandings often cannot be verbalized. They are instead perceived or experienced in burst of pure knowing or sudden comprehension." -- The Way Toward Health page 269.
"Still, some people must have mattered."
"Yes, some, but not many, not those creative pygmies who thought to tell me how to paint and what a painting should be. What I should be. I expressed my feelings. I did not illustrate them. They called me abstract because I did not give them pretty easy to understand paintings that they could ignore while sipping someone else's champagne at gallery openings. But I was representational some of the time, and a little all of the time. But when I paint out of my unconscious, strange figures emerge .It is not my responsibility to make sure they recognize them. I expected of myself only to paint, nothing less. I was right and I knew it."
"Again, expectations are not only vital in the formation of physical constructions, but they also determine what inner data of all available, will be received by the individual; and then the individual interprets the data in terms of the same expectations. The core of individuality, then, is the individual's expectations, for he will truly get what he wants, individually and collectively. If a man wants to change his fate, desire is not enough, but expectation is. Desire may grow into expectation, but alone it is not enough. Expectation is actually the main trigger that switches inner data into the realm of physical construction. Without it, no physical construction results." -- The Early Sessions, Book 2, Session 76.
Photo Copyright Hans Natmuth
"Was it strange when you became famous"?
"The strangeness wore off. They all called me Jackson, they never knew Paul. Paul is the painter. Turn over. The fame was not about me, it was for them, they constructed it, they destroyed it. But my paintings remain, because each painting has a life of its own plus my life is in them .I come through onto the canvas. Do you understand, that I am inside"?
"Yes."
"It is only when I lose contact with myself and the canvas before me or under me that the painting that results is a mess; that my motions are impotent. Otherwise in the action, in each movement there is pure harmony. An easy give and take, a rhyming that sustains. And the painting comes out well. Turn over. When I am painting I have a general notion as to what I am about. I can control this flow of paint: there is no accident, it is all highly emotional."
"The emotions come closer than anything else to the vividness of inner data." -- The Early Sessions, Book 1, Session188.
Untitled [Composition with Serpent Mask] Oil on Canvas 1941
"In the morning you may like this, what happen and me or you may not. There was a reviewer a while back who wrote that my paintings didn't have any beginning or any end. He didn't mean it as a compliment, but it was. He was a better friend than most of those adoring masses."
"It is late darling and I must leave."
"I Know."
"When you look at my paintings now will you feel me and see me."
"Yes."
"Was I what you wanted, did you come"?
"Yes."
"Good."
"The personality when it leaves your plane for good will have developed its potentials as far as it possibly can." -- The Early Sessions, Book 1, Session 163.
Paul Jackson Pollock: 28, January 1912-12, August 1956.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Heal the Heart - Heal the Soul -- New Kris Workshop in Toronto
Saturday & Sunday April 16 - 17, 2005 - in Toronto, Ontario, Canada
The Next Level in your Spiritual Healing Journey
If you attend any workshop for Inner Awareness and Spiritual Development this year, this is it!
Are you ready to change your life?
Ready to bring Balance, Harmony and Joy back in your life??
An extraordinary workshop for "The Creation of a Series of Fortunate Events"!
"How much pain, fear, anguish, and hardship do you believe the human heart contains and can hold? How much joy, harmony, bliss, love do you believe the same human heart can carry? ~ Kris
Date: Saturday and Sunday April 16 - 17, 2005
Call: 647-439-5076 for info and registration or email us.
Cost: $150.00 US - all tickets must be purchased in advance
Place: Ramada Hotel and Suites Downtown
300 Jarvis (at Carlton) - Toronto - Frontenac Room (top floor)
1-800-567-2233 http://www.ramadahotelandsuites.com
For more details and to purchase your advance tickets, please visit: http://www.krischronicles.com/workshops.html
We'd love to see as many of you there as possible.
Cheers,
Serge
Telepathy, Clairaudience and Channeling by Jonathan Dilas
The German author and artist has recently published a book about the
art of telepathy, mind-fields, clairaudience, channeling, ouija, clairvoyance and non-verbal communication. You also can find a practise course for channeling and telepathy.
The author creates a direct connection between telepathy, clairaudience and channeling. He shows a new field of clairvoyance, the so-called common light
sparkles, that you can use for learning this known ability. You also will be introduced to a lot of non-physical entities that Dilas has met in his exploration, using the practises he mentions in his book.
Some sessions with the personalities Lilith and Tha' Pa' Sa'ID are included and they talk about mind-fields, telepathy, UFOs, probability systems, usage of the focus of attention and the crux of thinking.
If you are interested in the arts and writings of Jonathan Dilas you can also move to his website. You also can find an English area there.
Seth Applied
New Haven, CT
October 27-30, 2005
The Fine Art of Forming and Transforming Individual and Mass Reality, A Fresh Creative Drama?
Your thoughts now seed worlds. It is only because you do not know that, that what I say sounds strange. You are here because your thoughts before your births seeded this world into which you would grow. You did not come here strangers. There is still, you see, much to learn. ESP Class 29 Sept 1979
As Seth readers we are aware that our beliefs, thoughts and expectations create our individual and mass reality seed our world/planet. We know this yet many of us wonder why we continue to be faced with events that are not pleasing to us, events that appear to lack value fulfillment for so many, and we wonder why this is so. Does this happen because we allow our focus and attention, our fine sense of discrimination to be drawn away from our inbuilt propensity to form ?dazzling mental and psychological creations i.e.our civilization its arts and sciences.
During our 'Seth Applied' weekend we aim to re-establish a 'feel' for those in-born leanings through stimulating discussion centered on the significance of Dreams, Framework 2, (inner reality), use of the Imagination, Focus and Expectation. We will also visit a display of the Jane Roberts papers housed in Sterling Memorial Library at Yale. And best of all we will take time to playfully and rambunctiously ?daydream? (envision) a society more in line with an evolving consciousness intent on value fulfillment for all. And better still during our weekend we will apply Seth?'s suggestion to 'act as if' all this has taken place, as we concentrate on what we want. So join us bringing not only your ideas of what areas of a society/civilization you feel disposed towards transforming, but most importantly your good intent, your sense humor, and ready to share your personal experiences and successes through use of the Seth material.
The world is changed in imagination. It is changed in dreams. It is changed in inner creativity and through your dreams, and then it is created physically.
LOCATION:
MARRIOTT COURTYARD
30 Whalley Avenue
New Haven, CT 06511
Room Rate: $115.00 per night (mention Seth event).
Phone: 1-203-777-6221
Fax: 1-203-772-1089
Registration Fee: $270 Early Bird (before September 1st).
After September 1: $300 Leisurely Bird
Registration Fee includes Thursday night pizza and dinner on
Saturday.
Contact:
Mary Dillman
437 Orange Street, Fl 3
New Haven CT 06511-6202
Email: marydillman@earthlink.net
Bay Area Seth Group
Hi Everyone,
I just wanted to put out a notice for the monthly gathering of the
Bay Area Seth Group. We meet the 2nd Saturday of every month from 3-6pm
in San Francisco. You can see more information at: ConsciousnessArts.com
If you'd like to be included on our Evite list to get
reminders of future meetings a week before the gathering, email me
and I'll put you on the list.
Blessings
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Kerstin Sjoquist
Bliss Trips Guided Journey CDs
415-385-8382
kerstin@blisstrips.com
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Join the new Yahoo Group of writer Susan M. Watkins:
Greetings! I would like to announce a new Yahoo group, dedicated to the work of Susan M. Watkins. This will be a forum in which Susan's work can be discussed (as well as Jane's, by extension), announcements will be posted about Susan's upcoming books, and also, people can communicate directly with Susan via the group. We are just getting started, so please bear with us if things start out a little slow there, but please do come and join us at:
For those not too familiar with Susan Watkins, she is a writer, was a close friend of Jane's, and a member of Jane's classes for the entire time that Jane held them. She wrote the 2- volume book about the classes, CONVERSATIONS WITH SETH, wrote a book exploring the dreams of residents of Dundee, New York, entitled DREAMING MYSELF, DREAMING A TOWN, and more recently, a memoir of her friendship with Jane, entitled SPEAKING OF JANE ROBERTS: REMEMBERING THE AUTHOR OF THE SETH MATERIAL. Conversations With Seth is being reissued this year in a special 2 volume "25th Anniversary Edition" from Moment Point Press, it should be out in May, and Sue has a brand new book coming out sometime in the fall, entitled "WHAT A COINCIDENCE!", exploring coincidences and their implications, and exploring the philosophical framework in which they fit in (also due out from Moment Point Press, Fall 2005)
Thanks, and Susan and I are looking forward to seeing you in the
susanmwatkins group!
from Glen V., Moderator of SusanMWatkins
Links
The Classic Seth Portrait by Rob Butts This is a low resolution scan for those interested.
Monthly Reminders
Announcing New Seth Books! Volumes 3 and 4 of The Personal Sessions are now available from Rick Stack and New Awareness Network! Check:
http://www.sethcenter.com
DAS Handbooks - A series that explores dreaming, art, and science. Compiled by Miss Blake.
UFOs and Seth’s "Observations" - A two-part series that examines the UFO phenomenon. Compiled and comments Mark M. Giese.
A Brief, Probable History of Sethnet - what/who gave birth to this group and why? Compiled by Paul M. Helfrich.
Who
is the "You" in You Create Your Own Reality? -
a three-part essay that explores the nature of the Self who creates
all its reality. By Paul M. Helfrich.
Greg Polson's Early Sessions Index, Vol. 9 is now available. (This completes the set of all nine books!)
Alphabetical Order
Page Order
Check out the Mindscapes Music CD: "A picture is worth a thousand words, but a song is worth a thousand pictures." Listen online to the Mindscapes CD, 22 tracks of new music from Paul Helfrich. Also available for purchase.
Cool Conscious Creation Resources on the Web
2005 Conscious Creation Calendar of Events
Sethnet Basics - get the most out of Sethnet
Seth Library - lots of free articles and material
CCSearch engine - tons of great resources, photos, articles, exercises, quotes, etc.
Random Seth quotes
Conscious Creation - explore the concepts introduced by Seth/Jane Roberts, and other sources. Hosted by John McNally and Kristen Fox.
The Elias forum - website by Paul & Joanne Helfrich contains an expansion of many of the conscious creation concepts introduced by Seth/Jane Roberts, channeled by Mary Ennis.
What if the Seth material was a foundation to be expanded later by other channeled sources? Can any perennial source ever be considered complete AND infallible?
Seth readers will want to check out:
Introduction & Overview
A Seth, Elias Comparative Overview (Updated!)
Digest: Seth, Jane Roberts
The Kris Chronicles - an expansion of many of the conscious creation concepts introduced by Seth/Jane Roberts, channeled by Serge Grandbois.
NewWorldView - provides a forum to explore the practical applications of integral conscious creation, dream-art science, and more.
Parabolic Mirror - explore the interests and insights of author John McNally.
Psychic Weather - explore the interests and insights of author John McNally.
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