Emmy van Swaaij is twenty-four years old, currently lives in Barcelona, Spain, and has been channeling Defrene for less than a year. This is a relatively young age for this “intelligence” to blossom. Jane Roberts (Seth) was thirty-four, Mary Ennis (Elias) was forty-one, and Serge Grandbois (Kris) was twenty-five respectively. So Emmy is still in ...