Kima: You're tough and I love it. Way to go. You present some excellent things that yesterday I thought about deeply, particularly regarding the 2 point of views working together as a whole. At first I looked at John S' viewpoint, then I looked at John M's point of view. Both, I must admit work beautifully, and work together in my life. John ...

John S: Many people seem to take the notion of a mass event is something that is a sort of consensus reality that we just find ourselves in, and over which we have little or no personal control. This is the conventional view of reality, where things happen to us because they were someone else'e choice. In such a reality there are victims and ...

John S: I have picked this bit from our complex discussion as representing the main issue. Yes, that's exactly what happens! But what about all the other people who want slightly different things than you do? Politics is a bit binary. Take something where there are many different desires and ideals held by many people. And we must assume ...

John S: Why did petrol (gas) prices rise over the last three years, in my reality? Well, they have been rising for as long as I can remember. When I was young, I remember getting 4 gallons for £1 ($2). Have they ever come down? And in that time, wars have come and gone. So, to me, it's much more likely that I simply expected prices to go up. ...

John S: But I'm interested, what 'test' would that be that it fails?  Please tell me!  I keep asking people questions but they do not respond. As for the 'unhealth disconnection', and 'callous solipsism' comments, did Seth not say that I cannot create in another persons reality, and visa-versa. Now, think of the implications of ...

John S: And just to set the record straight, I have never said I am a master of creation. I have never claimed that I am 'better' at conscious creation than anyone else. Pointing out that perhaps I am not, in no way invalidates my beliefs concerning it. I could just as easily turn your question around and point it at you.  How well are ...

John S: Now, you cannot negate that clear teaching by screaming at me, saying, ''Well, aren't these things a part of your experience too?'' How does that turn any of the above into a lie? Yes, I see media reports of all those things and more. And I create, attract, those media reports, too, as you do. Does that mean that these things ...

John S: I choose to believe otherwise, and do not accept other people's perspective on it. I do not get myself involved with it. It is not a part of my belief system.  Now I can hear a load outcry saying, ''But you cannot just ignore it, and bury your head in the sand and pretend it isn't there!'' Look at it this way: I see many ...

John S: We could go so far as to place our two books side by side on the table in a shared experience, and agree that the words are identical. But we would both be creating our own physical versions of the books, along with all the other sensory experience associated with this event. Spock once said: ''A difference that makes no difference ...

Billie: My take on YCYOR has always been that whatever we see/experience in our reality is our creation and we can change what we don't want regardless of the size.  Easier said than done, however - for me that is.  But here is a perfect example from the field of healing which I personally feel is one of the best arenas for ...