WOW!  Thanks a million for posting the Kris excerpt Ellen, I just emailed it to my friend.  This is SO fascinating! The Dogon group meditation log post is here: http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-LGT3JUclcav30.NRTkGT2FcydTk-?cq=1&tag=dogon I had already asked Elias if I had a Dogon focus, and he said yes, but didn't give me any info ...